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re: Athlon's ranks SEC Coaches ahead of 2014 season
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:10 pm to adammwilson
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:10 pm to adammwilson
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OK? Great.... What's your point? Wins are wins. Y'all weren't exactly blowin teams out this season. Doesn't make it any less impressive.
I was responding in kind to your cousin that used "AU won 6 games by a TD or less" in his argument earlier in this thread.
Thanks for helping reinforce the point I was also trying to make.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 9:14 pm
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:11 pm to Prof
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JFF's spontaneity and improv skills were just as big of a problem for Saban as Manziel's innate talent.
I thought they did a great job VS Manziel in the 2nd half in games.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:11 pm to ToddIIGurley
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Thank you!! It finally comes out! What is the head coaches job?
Top 3 in the league because he can call plays? Again. No... IMHO, of course.
It might escape you to realize this, but it was Malzahn's first year at Auburn and our defensive personnel weren't very good in a lot of areas.
The secondary was undersized and had absolutely zero depth and the linebackers were pretty pedestrian, and I'd say below average when Jake Holland took the field. The defensive line was very solid.
Part of it is Ellis Johnson's style, but we didn't play a whole lot of man coverage simply because we didn't have the guys in the secondary to make it work. We always played with a soft cushion between the 25s, and it was because we were so liable to get burned deep. Our defense was making lemonade out of some lemons, and most of the year they did a fairly decent job of it.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:11 pm to RB10
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Are you serious? 90% of college head coaches don't make the calls on offense or defense.
I think we're wasting our breath. This guy has no idea Malzahn has nothing to do with D.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:12 pm to ToddIIGurley
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ToddIIGurley
You need a box my man
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:12 pm to adammwilson
quote:Great would be a stretch..
I thought they did a great job VS Manziel in the 2nd half in games.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:13 pm to JuiceTerry
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Great would be a stretch..
Well.. in comparison to the first half of games.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:14 pm to ToddIIGurley
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Agree, to a point, however, there is much more to it. Their job is to prepare these kids in all aspects of the game. Had he made the right coaching decisions to complete on the defensive side of the ball, Auburn would have been pretty deadly all year and they would have won a National Championship. He didn't do this. Therefore, with him being so fresh into this league there is no way I would put him at the number 3 spot. If they do the same thing next year and win it all? Sure. However, Les deserves to be ahead of him, no doubt. CMR even has an argument, but he cares too much about handicapping our players with the rules to win it all.
What were the right coaching decisions on the defensive side of the ball? I thought our defensive coaches did one hell of a job all year to get the unit that featured one of the worst defenses in the entire country the previous two years to look halfway decent.
The only time I ever was dissappointed with the defensive staff was the second half of the Georgia game, but even then it's not like they could do anything to stop the short slants Georgia was running. Our LBs were garbage in coverage and our secondary was prone to mistakes.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:14 pm to DuncanIdaho
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Yeah, that's it. I guess you should get a new coach then.
Couldn't agree more... Seriously though. Gus has a 12-2 season and he gets branded the 3rd best coach in this this league? Pass...
CMR had a 13-1 and 12-2 season and more 10 wins seasons than you can count. Les Miles probably has a similar thing at LSU, but has Crystal Football on top of this.
Sorry, Gus, take a back seat, bruh. See you guys November 15th!
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:16 pm to Ross
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What were the right coaching decisions on the defensive side of the ball? I thought our defensive coaches did one hell of a job all year to get the unit that featured one of the worst defenses in the entire country the previous two years to look halfway decent.
Exactly. Yalls DC is a hell of a coach and did one hell of a job.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:16 pm to adammwilson
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I think we're wasting our breath. This guy has no idea Malzahn has nothing to do with D.
Is this guy not a head coach? Jesus... My own fan base is even blind. Head coaches run the entire show. Period.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:17 pm to ToddIIGurley
That 12-2 record includes the biggest turnaround in college football history and taking a team that finished winless in the conference (and I believe last in total offense and total defense) the year prior and winning the conference in his very first year.
I think Malzahn is going to prove a lot of the doubters wrong yet again this coming year. The dude can flat out coach.
I think Malzahn is going to prove a lot of the doubters wrong yet again this coming year. The dude can flat out coach.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:17 pm to ToddIIGurley
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Is this guy not a head coach? Jesus... My own fan base is even blind. Head coaches run the entire show. Period.
No. HC, if they're offensive minded, work with the offense. They Hire a DC to run the defense and they let him do it.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:18 pm to ToddIIGurley
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Is this guy not a head coach? Jesus... My own fan base is even blind. Head coaches run the entire show. Period.
What do you think coordinators do?
For example, what does Cameron do for LSU?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:19 pm to ToddIIGurley
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Couldn't agree more... Seriously though. Gus has a 12-2 season and he gets branded the 3rd best coach in this this league? Pass...
I don't necessarily think he's the 3rd best coach, but to make the argument based on last year's defense is asinine.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:19 pm to Ross
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For example, what does Cameron do for LSU?
At least Miles and Cameron are on the same side of the ball.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:20 pm to ToddIIGurley
Gus Malzahn took a 3-9 team, and won the SEC his first year. The last time Richt accomplished that, George W. Bush was just starting his second term and the housing collapse was 4 years away. Go to bed.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:20 pm to Ross
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I think Malzahn is going to prove a lot of the doubters wrong yet again this coming year. The dude can flat out coach.
Can't wait, my friend!
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:21 pm to thirdlawson
Les ahead of Gus and Mark. Les tends to get a bad rep thanks to the fluctuating moods of the fan base.
That's not taking anything away from either, but Les has earned his spot and kept it.
That's not taking anything away from either, but Les has earned his spot and kept it.
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:34 pm to ToddIIGurley
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Agree, to a point, however, there is much more to it. Their job is to prepare these kids in all aspects of the game. Had he made the right coaching decisions to complete on the defensive side of the ball, Auburn would have been pretty deadly all year and they would have won a National Championship. He didn't do this. Therefore, with him being so fresh into this league there is no way I would put him at the number 3 spot. If they do the same thing next year and win it all? Sure. However, Les deserves to be ahead of him, no doubt. CMR even has an argument, but he cares too much about handicapping our players with the rules to win it all.
You have to look at the facts...
Saban is tops. No argument.
Spurrier is 2nd, and if you look at it...he's been at USCe 9 years, won the division ONCE. But he turned a doormat into a Top 10 team with good talent....
Malzahn is 3rd. He took a team that won ZERO conference games in 2012 to the National Championship game. That is nothing short of phenomenal, i'm sorry. No longevity is your ONLY argument against Gus. And the gimmick offense thing...
2008, the year before Gus was hired as OC...Auburn finished 105th out of 119 teams in total offense...
In 2009 they finished 16th. 2010 they finished 3rd.
In 2012 they finished 117th...they finished 7th in 2013. Gus can coach offense. The defense will come around, I can promise you.
Les...does the least with the most.
Richt ...cant win big games. Nothing personal...just saying.
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