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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by JakeMongoose
Montgomery, Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
56 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

You will admit one day that we belong in the SEC.


If Vandy and Mizzou are in the SEC, sure, you can say you belong too.

Feel better?
Posted by Sargentwinslow9
Member since Aug 2013
31 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:31 pm to
3inout

Blow me.

Seriously. There are people in this very thread who are skeptical over the existence of this video. Go read them if you have doubts. You have #JusticeforJohnny on your signature. If you don't think he's innocent, what justice are we looking for?

Also yeah, i just got here. Only 2 months after you did. Don't act like you're somehow superior to me because you posted 200 more times on a message board. There are buttloads of people out there who still believe he didn't do it and if i'm to take your texas monthly profile picture into consideration, you're probably one of those fools.

Keep believing in fairy tales buddy
Posted by TwelfthMan
Member since Oct 2012
694 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:33 pm to
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U guys belong and we all admit it


Thank you, Sir! Love the SEC.


quote:

but you will be consistently no better then 3rd in the west


You should save that for when you actually beat us.
Posted by Sargentwinslow9
Member since Aug 2013
31 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Au is rebuilt


Rebuilt to what? The one good season in 10 years that they bought? Ill be waiting years before that program sniffs any kind of SEC success again
Posted by Legend13
Driving a titleist
Member since Nov 2011
4079 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:35 pm to
aggressor
quote:

Maybe they are lying, maybe they aren't. They just should have to provide some type of real evidence other than a pic/video of Johnny signing a few autos (nothing remotely approaching the numbers they are saying) and their "word". If they paid him, show something regarding the money trail.
You better hope little Johnny paid cash fa dem rimzes..
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17845 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:35 pm to
not worried about last year..You ags won't the battle but Bama won the war..so your win is like a pimple that I popped 2 months later. RTR
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:35 pm to
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Its amazing how delusional we are right now. Pretending like we don't really know if he got paid because we don't have film of him putting money into his bank account. Cmon. ESPN may be annoying as hell but acting like they're straight up lying about the existence of the video and the number of signed items is pretty sad. I'm an adult. I don't need "undeniable proof" to know that OJ killed two people, Barry Bonds took steroids, and that Johnny did not sign 4K items for free. Sucks but thats just the truth




Your argument only holds water if you say that we should take every assumption of every accusation of NCAA players violating the rules and suspend them. Didn't they just have a survey on the Rant that showed most players saw at least 4 violations PER MONTH? So is the solution to suspend everyone?

No, the solution is to allow people some level of due process. You can't just destroy a person's career on circumstantial evidence. They have to show he either A) Took the money or B) Knew Uncle Nate was taking money (which of course assumes they can show Nate took money as well).

It scares me to think how many people think folks should have their life ruined based on an accusation regardless of the evidence. If he is proven guilty, he should pay the price. He should have to be proven guilty first though before he is hanged. Even if they can prove he is covering it up or that A&M is covering it up that's a would be enough.

All we have though is pics of Johnny signing a few autos and the word of folks that have a legit axe to grind with Johnny because he hurt their business.
Posted by ISEN_AG
ThunderWolf Manor
Member since Aug 2013
2339 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:37 pm to
I'm not saying he didn't do it. Hell, I think he did. Just saying that no definitive proof has been brought forward yet. Everything we've heard so far is just hearsay and cannot be used against him.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:37 pm to
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aggressor

quote:
Maybe they are lying, maybe they aren't. They just should have to provide some type of real evidence other than a pic/video of Johnny signing a few autos (nothing remotely approaching the numbers they are saying) and their "word". If they paid him, show something regarding the money trail.

You better hope little Johnny paid cash fa dem rimzes..



As I said, Johnny's car has the same rims it had last year. So I guess Johnny liked to the broker about what he needed the money for?
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17845 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:37 pm to
AU has had a lot of success in the pat 15 years..compared to your win total I would wager a paycheck that their total wins in the past 15 years is more then yours and they did not have to play the likes of Baylor and TT and Kansas most years.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17845 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:38 pm to
he was heard saying he needed new rims..not recalling anyone claiming he went out and bought them
Posted by 3andOut
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2013
3716 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:38 pm to
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Also yeah, i just got here. Only 2 months after you did


Ive been here since we joined the SEC. Just because I never posted (which is highly recommended by veterans on this board for the first year) dont kid yourself.

The Justice for Johnny thing was something that originate on the A&M boards and I joined as support.

Nobody thinks JFF did nothing wrong. He signed a shitload of autographs and probably got paid.

youll eventually meet the Aggie cool kids. TeleFawx, Tbird, and Roger Klarvin (my three favorite posters on this board) and they will let you know (as Tbird let me know when i first started posting, us Aggies usually stick together (unless you are WhiskeyBent in which case we still try but sometimes you just have to cut your losses).

The people that believe he didnt do ANYTHING wrong are probably the same ones whining about all the attention our program is receiveing (not a bad thing)

So if your an alter GFY if you are actually new.. Welcome
This post was edited on 8/14/13 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Greg09Ag
Third Coast yuh heeeeard
Member since Sep 2011
3168 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:38 pm to
Alter. Or dumbass.
Posted by Sargentwinslow9
Member since Aug 2013
31 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

us Aggies usually stick togethe


Maybe don't be a prick to me because i stated my opinion? We can start there
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:41 pm to
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Rebuilt to what? The one good season in 10 years that they bought? Ill be waiting years before that program sniffs any kind of SEC success again


Slow your roll, old man.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:42 pm to
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Alter. Or dumbass.



both remains a possibility, as well.
Posted by Sargentwinslow9
Member since Aug 2013
31 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:42 pm to
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he was heard saying he needed new rims..not recalling anyone claiming he went out and bought them


This. He didn't buy what he allegedly said he was going to buy so its proof the whole thing didn't take place? Talk about grasping at straws.
Posted by Maroon Flash
Florida
Member since May 2013
1527 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17845 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:45 pm to
i have not reason to doubt that several folks from ESPN saw a video of the signing..I think that there are several other people saying there were signings in Bham and down in Miami to go with the one in Conn. is pretty solid circumstantial evidence that something happened. The paper trail like daddy Cam will be hard to find..There will be a second bag man talked about by Danny today on the PF show
Posted by JakeMongoose
Montgomery, Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
56 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 1:48 pm to
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he was heard saying he needed new rims..not recalling anyone claiming he went out and bought them


Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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