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re: Anyone want to take a stab at some big upsets this year?

Posted on 8/2/08 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by arlo
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 12:27 pm to
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Bama over Western Kentucky.


The Barn over Bama.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 1:12 pm to
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The Barn over Bama.


After this years Iron Bowl, the number 7 will be heard many times by the Alabama faithful.
This post was edited on 8/2/08 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Adiossuck
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 1:15 pm to
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After this years Iron Bowl, the number 7 will be heard many times by the Alabama faithful.


That and after 6 straight times.. beating them again I dont think would be considered an 'upset'
Posted by LSUGradATL
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 1:32 pm to
South Carolina, Arizona State, LSU, Florida and Auburn over UGA.
Posted by arlo
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 1:42 pm to
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After this years Iron Bowl, the number 7 will be heard many times by the Alabama faithful.


Tell me something Ross. Why don't I ever hear a Barner admit their streak over Bama had something to do with Bama's probation? To me, that shows a lack of ability to think in the abstract, or to be introspective. Personally, I wouldn't make too much of it.

A Barner friend of mine always likes to ask rhetorically if his daughter will ever live to see the Tide beat the Barn. I always ask him will she live long enough to see the Barn win a NC?
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 1:46 pm to
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Tell me something Ross. Why don't I ever hear a Barner admit their streak over Bama had something to do with Bama's probation?


Why does that even matter? Auburn doesn't control what Alabama does to get put on probation.

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To me, that shows a lack of ability to think in the abstract, or to be introspective. Personally, I wouldn't make too much of it.


To me, its something you tell yourself to make yourself feel better. I bet you are one of those Alabama fans that think Auburn's streak should have an asterisk, aren't you?


Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 1:49 pm to
Bama fans LOVE to play the probation card b/c gumps love excuses.

AU was put on probation in '93. It was not as severe as bammer's but is was significant. AU got pissed and ran off about 20 straight wins, beat Bama, and never lost to Bama more than twice consecutively. AU used it as a rallying point and put together some good seasons, Bama just
This post was edited on 8/2/08 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 1:50 pm to
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To me, its something you tell yourself to make yourself feel better. I bet you are one of those Alabama fans that think Auburn's streak should have an asterisk, aren't you?
Posted by arlo
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 1:59 pm to
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To me, its something you tell yourself to make yourself feel better. I bet you are one of those Alabama fans that think Auburn's streak should have an asterisk, aren't you?


No. No asterisk, but I suppose looking for some small modicum of humility in a Barner is like looking for the pork in Pork&Beans. Personally, I'd temper my braggin' a little, but you guys have become a little juvenile lately.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 2:04 pm to
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No. No asterisk, but I suppose looking for some small modicum of humility in a Barner is like looking for the pork in Pork&Beans. Personally, I'd temper my braggin' a little, but you guys have become a little juvenile lately.


You're calling me juvenile? You're the one using the term 'Barner' constantly. Why should I show any humility anyway? Its not like Alabama fans would return the favor.
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Posted by arlo
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 2:07 pm to
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AU was put on probation in '93. It was not as severe as bammer's but is was significant.


Yep. A two year bowl ban, and a loss of 13 scholarships. That's about half of what Bama got.

Yet significant!
Posted by arlo
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 2:15 pm to
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You're calling me juvenile?


If the shoe fits...

There must have been a lot of chin-pulling and collar-tugging going on at the Barn when T Bowden was threatening to spill the beans about all Pat Dye's old players asking him, "Who's gonna pay me now?"

The irony is if Auburn had ever been a contender on the national stage, maybe the NCAA would have picked them to make an example of instead of Bama. The Barn was charged with LOIC, and Pat Dye was forbidden to participate in the program anymore! (note: In the second worse probation sentence ever given by the NCAA, Bama wasn't charged with LOIC.) Yet we still have to hear the Barner drivel about "6 straight!" when you guys should be a little bit more circumspect about your good fortune.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 2:39 pm to
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If the shoe fits...


Fits you quite well.

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The irony is if Auburn had ever been a contender on the national stage, maybe the NCAA would have picked them to make an example of instead of Bama. The Barn was charged with LOIC, and Pat Dye was forbidden to participate in the program anymore! (note: In the second worse probation sentence ever given by the NCAA, Bama wasn't charged with LOIC.) Yet we still have to hear the Barner drivel about "6 straight!" when you guys should be a little bit more circumspect about your good fortune.



So wait, you're using the fact that you were put on a probation worse than Auburn's ten years prior as to prove that Alabama is better than Auburn? Nice...
This post was edited on 8/2/08 at 2:40 pm
Posted by arlo
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 3:07 pm to
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So wait, you're using the fact that you were put on a probation worse than Auburn's ten years prior as to prove that Alabama is better than Auburn? Nice...


I don't need any substantiating proof that Bama is better than Auburn. That's just a statement of fact. Ask Brandon Cox which school he wanted to go to.

Auburn deserved the death penalty back in the '90s. How many NCAA sanctions have recommended firing the head coach?
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 3:12 pm to
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I don't need any substantiating proof that Bama is better than Auburn. That's just a statement of fact. Ask Brandon Cox which school he wanted to go to.


No, you just keep on going on about how Alabama will forever and always be better than Auburn, even when that day comes where we are in the lead in the series record.

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Auburn deserved the death penalty back in the '90s. How many NCAA sanctions have recommended firing the head coach?



In my opinion its highly unlikely the NCAA will ever use the death penalty again, and the NCAA will never use the death penality against a major BCS school after seeing what it did to SMU. Plus, I think what penalty's are imposed against schools are entirely up to the jurisdiction of the NCAA, not you.
This post was edited on 8/2/08 at 3:13 pm
Posted by arlo
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 3:26 pm to
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No, you just keep on going on about how Alabama will forever and always be better than Auburn, even when that day comes where we are in the lead in the series record.


You always keep coming up with this fractured logic. If the series record is the determining factor, would you say Bama is better than AU now? I think we lead in the series, don't we?

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In my opinion its highly unlikely the NCAA will ever use the death penalty again, and the NCAA will never use the death penality against a major BCS school after seeing what it did to SMU. Plus, I think what penalty's are imposed against schools are entirely up to the jurisdiction of the NCAA, not you.


I doubt there will ever be a death penalty again. I guess we could argue over who was the most guilty bastard, Bama vice Auburn, until the cows come home. (Hope that didn't distract you. LOL!) The main beneficiary has been USC, because after what the NCAA went through with Bama, they're reluctant to do their bullshite again. Also, USC doesn't have any compliance personnel trying to get a job with the NCAA.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 3:29 pm to
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You always keep coming up with this fractured logic. If the series record is the determining factor, would you say Bama is better than AU now? I think we lead in the series, don't we?


Don't look at me, I hardly ever bring it up in an argument. I'm saying it now because Alabama fans two reasons to why they will always be better than Auburn are: "Twelve National Titles" and "We own the series record". I always have laughed at the ones who use the series record as a reason, seeing how its only five games, which can be made up easily. But I have a feeling if we won the next six in a row Alabama fans still wouldn't acknowledge Auburn's existance and still claim we are just the "red-headed stepchild".


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I doubt there will ever be a death penalty again. I guess we could argue over who was the most guilty bastard, Bama vice Auburn, until the cows come home. (Hope that didn't distract you. LOL!) The main beneficiary has been USC, because after what the NCAA went through with Bama, they're reluctant to do their bullshite again. Also, USC doesn't have any compliance personnel trying to get a job with the NCAA.


And you had the nerve to call me juvenile...
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 3:30 pm to
"LSU, Florida and Auburn over UGA."

agreed
Posted by arlo
Member since Oct 2007
12376 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 3:46 pm to
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But I have a feeling if we won the next six in a row Alabama fans still wouldn't acknowledge Auburn's existance and still claim we are just the "red-headed stepchild".


I agree with this.

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And you had the nerve to call me juvenile...


Point taken. I apologize.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/2/08 at 4:09 pm to
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big upsets this year?

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Wisconsin over tOSU?

I wouldn't call that a "big upset"
Wisky should be pretty good this year.

Not to mention it's a night game at Wisconsin.
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