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re: All You Trolls Who Believe Pinkel and Coaching Staff Protecting DGB
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:13 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:13 pm to DawgsLife
Who pressured the girls to not press charges? The coaches who kicked him off the team even though there were no charges?
They successfully got them to not press charges and then kick him off the team? What kind of special sense does that make?
They successfully got them to not press charges and then kick him off the team? What kind of special sense does that make?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:16 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Exactly. This is what I just said, see my previous post. Sans absolute proof that there was no pressure anyone from the SEC will believe that there was. Try proving something didn't happen or doesn't exist. So we are done here. Agreed.
So...you don't believe that any pressure was put on anybody not to press charges? ok. then I guess we are done, then. If you honestly believe this, then there is nothing more to be said.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:17 pm to the808bass
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And some families might feel that an investigation would cause them to go through a lot of pain and wouldn't change the awful outcome for their daughter.
Unlike a rape and suicide, you mean?
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Their daughter chose not to report it.
And she says she did not report it because of backlash. So...if you are intimidated not to report a rape, then it is ok?
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How it conducts the investigation is probably greatly affected.
Probably. however, ethics and integrity come into play. If I send my child to a school, I think the school should look after the best interests of my child, don't you?
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And any investigation by the university isn't a police investigation.
Seems logical. But if they can uncover the truth, then I would think it is well worth the time and trouble.
Hey, I admit I was trying to get a rise out of you guys. But, in my research to gig you guys, I saw where Missouri SEEMS to try to keep a clean athletic program. I saw much to admire in that. You guys have a lot to admire about your athletic dpartment. I am sincere in saying that. I still feel they mishandled the swimmer situation, and came dangerously close to mishandling the DBG situation. Only fans of the school keeping their feet to the fire and watching will keep your school from dropping to levels other schools have dropped to.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:20 pm to the808bass
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Who pressured the girls to not press charges? The coaches who kicked him off the team even though there were no charges?
According to the only people that would truly know....yes. The coaches. i don't know which ones or how many, but that was the allegation. And, if you think about it...it makes sense, doesn't it?
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They successfully got them to not press charges and then kick him off the team? What kind of special sense does that make?
They kicked them off the team ONLY when the firestorm hit. The timing EAS curious, don't you think? They suspended him indefinitely. Then with no more evidence, and the charges getting dropped, they kicked him off the team? Now THAT is strange. Unless they knew the charges were true.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:25 pm to DawgsLife
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Then with no more evidence, and the charges getting dropped, they kicked him off the team? Now THAT is strange. Unless they knew the charges were true.
You're too stupid to argue with. I hope they thought he actually did it if they kicked him off the team. And your assertion that they had "no more evidence" is as baseless as the rest of your meandering half-brained assertions. There was no new information to the public. I hope the AD was doing their own investigation.
If they had wanted to keep him, they would have. They didn't. So they didn't.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:26 pm to the808bass
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Who pressured the girls to not press charges? The coaches who kicked him off the team even though there were no charges?
They successfully got them to not press charges and then kick him off the team? What kind of special sense does that make?
DGB's GF - who was reportedly in the apartment at the time of the offenses, but (according to her) was in the bathroom and didn't see anything, tweeted the victim and advised her not to go through with filing charges. It's only speculation, but I can almost guarantee you that others got to her and did the same. Refusing to believe that is only pure denial.....
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:27 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Where the fuk you getting that?
According to the only people that would truly know....yes.
Seriously.
Where the fuk?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:28 pm to ConwayGamecock
Sure. But if the goal was to get them to not press charges, why kick him off the team when there's no charges pending.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:36 pm to the808bass
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And your assertion that they had "no more evidence" is as baseless as the rest of your meandering half-brained assertions.
Really? What changed? you tell me. What has come out differently from what we knew when the suspended him? Let me give you a clue. nothing.
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I hope the AD was doing their own investigation.
You mean, unlike in the case of the swimmer? That kind of investigation?
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If they had wanted to keep him, they would have. They didn't. So they didn't.
Sure. I mean...who would want to keep a 5* player? obviously they did not want to keep him.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:37 pm to MIZ_COU
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Where the fuk you getting that?
Seriously.
Where the fuk?
Really? Who would know? The people that were involved.
Seriously?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:37 pm to the808bass
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Sure. But if the goal was to get them to not press charges, why kick him off the team when there's no charges pending.
This has already been covered. It's because a female student-athlete was raped by UM FB players, tried to get help for it from UM officials, was instead ostracized, ridiculed, ultimately kicked off the team of her sport and out of UM, and ended up taking her own life...
Yesterday, the independent council investigation of that sordid affair was released and UM was roasted and heavily criticized for their lack of proper response. To the extent that individuals will most likely be fired and lawsuits will most likely come forth...
Also yesterday, internet news reports and other UM blog "sources" report that DGB - once again, a UM FB player - attacked the victim, then efforts were made to intimidate the victim into not pressing charges, which apparently proved successful. DGB has also had a bad short history off the field at UM...
Missouri is in a very bad spot right now. With all the news about these events taking place all at once, it appears the UM AD is a shambles and a joke in keeping it's student-athletes on the leash. The football program seems to be the most culpable. Coach Pinkel couldn't have had any other recourse left to him after all that...
It just looks bad. The whole thing looks very bad. My position is, the victim CLEARLY told the police that she didn't wish to press charges - NOT BECAUSE THE ASSAULT DIDN'T HAPPEN - but because she felt intimidation and coercion from others, and felt she would be harrassed by others if she did press charges.
What blows MY mind is that the Missouri police listened to that, and then basically said, "oh alrighty then. In that case, just sign this form to decline prosecution. Thank you very much"....and then turned their backs on the victim and walked away....
Who the frick does that shite? Oh I know: a college town. Why wouldn't the police Dept. take it on themselves to proceed forward with charges anyways? Since they know for a fact that an assault took place.....
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:39 pm to ConwayGamecock
quote:there is evidence of that, and the reason given was that she didn't want DGB to 'lose the only thing she had'.
tweeted the victim and advised her not to go through with filing charges.
quote:You are correct. You made that up
It's only speculation
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:39 pm to the808bass
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Sure. But if the goal was to get them to not press charges, why kick him off the team when there's no charges pending.
It was a progression. They wanted it to be quietly dropped. When it wasn't and more information came out....they had to do something.
You guys need to take a step away from the kool-aid wagon for just a bit. How would you be looking at this situation if it were going on at any other school. I have already admitted and condemned my own schools failings. But you can't?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:40 pm to mikrit54
Great album in your avatar. My favourite all time band along with Jimi Hendrix.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:40 pm to MIZ_COU
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there is evidence of that, and the reason given was that she didn't want DGB to 'lose the only thing she had'.
You are one naive person, you know that? you are incapable of critical thinking and logic analysis.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:42 pm to DawgsLife
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Really? What changed? you tell me. What has come out differently from what we knew when the suspended him? Let me give you a clue. nothing.
I am interested in your sources inside the AD.
You're just full-on trolling now. Attaboy. Git it.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:45 pm to DawgsLife
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You guys need to take a step away from the kool-aid wagon for just a bit. How would you be looking at this situation if it were going on at any other school. I have already admitted and condemned my own schools failings. But you can't?
Ummm. What? I think the school did the right thing in kicking him out. Is that what makes me a kool aid drinker? They did it within a week of the incident. Too slow? What exactly was the major failing of the university here?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:48 pm to DawgsLife
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And she says she did not report it because of backlash. So...if you are intimidated not to report a rape, then it is ok?
Well this is new information. Where'd you find this champ?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:48 pm to the808bass
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I am interested in your sources inside the AD.
You're just full-on trolling now. Attaboy. Git it.
SECRant's Division of Investigative Reporting refuses to divulge it's sources for ANY of it's insider reporting. We refer you to the 1st Amendment of the Constitution....
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:49 pm to ConwayGamecock
My bad. I apologize for infringing.
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