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re: Alex Leatherwood pens letter, read by Bama players via UA Football twitter
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:17 pm to InGAButLoveBama
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:17 pm to InGAButLoveBama
Anyone who thinks BLM is telling the truth, please look at these graphs, showing data from govt sources, not DavidDuke.com, and then tell us if you think BLM really thinks Black Lives Matter, or that it really thinks Whites must be demonized at all costs.
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This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 8:18 pm
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:19 pm to InGAButLoveBama
More Blacks died from constipation in 2016, than from being unarmed and killed by cops.
https://theredelephants.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Police-killing-unarmed-blacks-vs-other-causes.jpg
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Look at this chart:
https://theredelephants.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Police-killing-unarmed-blacks-vs-other-causes.jpg
https://theredelephants.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Police-shootings-by-race-and-ethnicity-.jpg
Look at this chart:
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:24 pm to InGAButLoveBama
A Long List of Scientific Papers Disprove Racial Bias in Police killings:
Lott and Moody (2017), using one of the most comprehensive list of police shootings compiled, finds blacks suspects are not more likely to be shot by white officers than blacks after controlling for a whole host of variables and finds no support for racial taste based discrimination by white officers.
Cesario et al. (2018) – we know blacks are over represented compared to their % of the population in police killings, but that isn’t the right benchmark. Blacks also commit more crimes which makes them more likely to find themselves in scenarios involving police, and that alone means they’re more likely to “act out” and lead to a justified police killing. Using various metrics of crime (murder, violent crime, weapons violations), and looking at all fatal shootings, they found a consistent anti white bias in police shootings. Disaggregating the data and only looking at unarmed victims shows blacks still usually not being discriminated against and, in fact, being shot less than you’d expect.
James (2016) did a lab experiment with police officers and found officers took longer to shoot blacks than whites in their scenarios (1.09 to shoot a white, 1.32 seconds to shoot a black), and they were more likely to wrongly shoot nonaggressing whites than nonaggressing blacks.
Johnson et al. (2019) looked at 2015 data and found that black and white cops were equally likely to shoot blacks.
Fryer (2016, revised 2018) found no racial bias in police shootings, though he did find bias in police use of force. The data was limited to Houston, though, so it’s hard to know if the data is generalisable.
Ross (2015) found a racial bias in police shootings & was widely reported in media. There are critical issues that weren’t reported though: it didn’t use incident level data, making it subject to the ecological fallacy. Further, it used odd metrics of crime (like assault and weapons violations), when crimes like homicide are more appropriate because those crimes typically include a body and have much less police discretion in terms of arrests etc. These crimes also are more violent than weapons violations, which may not meaningfully predict how likely someone is going to run into the police in a violent encounter (if a black with a CCW accidentally walks into a gun free building, that’s technically a violation but isn’t violent and may not predict a violent encounter with a cop like stabbing someone would). This paper isn’t too convincing because of that.
Goff et al. (2016) found no bias in police shootings but did find a bias in police force (like Fryer). However, when they controlled for violent crime, whites were actually more likely to experience use of force than blacks were.
From LINK /
Lott and Moody (2017), using one of the most comprehensive list of police shootings compiled, finds blacks suspects are not more likely to be shot by white officers than blacks after controlling for a whole host of variables and finds no support for racial taste based discrimination by white officers.
Cesario et al. (2018) – we know blacks are over represented compared to their % of the population in police killings, but that isn’t the right benchmark. Blacks also commit more crimes which makes them more likely to find themselves in scenarios involving police, and that alone means they’re more likely to “act out” and lead to a justified police killing. Using various metrics of crime (murder, violent crime, weapons violations), and looking at all fatal shootings, they found a consistent anti white bias in police shootings. Disaggregating the data and only looking at unarmed victims shows blacks still usually not being discriminated against and, in fact, being shot less than you’d expect.
James (2016) did a lab experiment with police officers and found officers took longer to shoot blacks than whites in their scenarios (1.09 to shoot a white, 1.32 seconds to shoot a black), and they were more likely to wrongly shoot nonaggressing whites than nonaggressing blacks.
Johnson et al. (2019) looked at 2015 data and found that black and white cops were equally likely to shoot blacks.
Fryer (2016, revised 2018) found no racial bias in police shootings, though he did find bias in police use of force. The data was limited to Houston, though, so it’s hard to know if the data is generalisable.
Ross (2015) found a racial bias in police shootings & was widely reported in media. There are critical issues that weren’t reported though: it didn’t use incident level data, making it subject to the ecological fallacy. Further, it used odd metrics of crime (like assault and weapons violations), when crimes like homicide are more appropriate because those crimes typically include a body and have much less police discretion in terms of arrests etc. These crimes also are more violent than weapons violations, which may not meaningfully predict how likely someone is going to run into the police in a violent encounter (if a black with a CCW accidentally walks into a gun free building, that’s technically a violation but isn’t violent and may not predict a violent encounter with a cop like stabbing someone would). This paper isn’t too convincing because of that.
Goff et al. (2016) found no bias in police shootings but did find a bias in police force (like Fryer). However, when they controlled for violent crime, whites were actually more likely to experience use of force than blacks were.
From LINK /
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:26 pm to InGAButLoveBama
Socioeconomics?
It is widely believed that black Americans commit violent crime at substantially higher rates than whites due to socioeconomic factors. This is a falsehood. By examining raw data provided by officially recognized institutions, it becomes clear that this is not the case.
In 1999, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York published an economic policy review titled ‘Unequal Incomes, Unequal outcomes? Economic Inequality and Measures of Well-Being.’ It is shown on table 5 of page 93 that people belonging to black families in the top income bracket committed up to 5 times the rate of crime whites did of the same income bracket. Moreover, from 1976 to 1995, offenders from the highest income bracket from black families committed a higher rate of violent crimes than the lowest income white families, at between 2 to 20 times the rate.
An analysis based on data provided by the U.S Bureau of Labor Statistics also proved something similar. The study ‘Race, Wealth and Incarceration: Results from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth,’ released in the academic journal ‘Race and Social Problems,’ reveals that “although higher levels of wealth were associated with lower rates of incarceration, the likelihood of future incarceration still was higher for blacks at every level of wealth compared to the white likelihood, as well as the Hispanic likelihood, which fell below the white likelihood for some levels of wealth.” It is also notable that Native Americans have generally had higher levels of poverty over the last 30 or so years, according to a study published by The Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality, yet still commit lower crime rates than blacks.
A Washington Post article titled ‘Poor white kids are less likely to go to prison than rich black kids’ examines the data and suggests “discrimination against people of color is more complicated and fundamental than economic inequality,” implying that institutional racism is behind the phenomenon. The problem with this argument, is that the black crime rate has gotten progressively worse since segregation. Similarly, the black out-of-wedlock rate has gotten far worse since segregation.
We should also consider the fact that Asians had less rights than blacks for many years, yet still commit the absolute lowest crime rate of any racial group in the United States. While blacks were granted constitutional rights of citizenship in 1865, Asians could only apply for citizenship after the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. Despite this, in many studies Asian people do not even have their own category in race-crime studies, often lumped in with other ethnic groups under the negligible ‘others’ crime rates.
Similarly, the argument for inter-generational trauma caused by slavery does not conclusively explain causation either. Both Native Americans and Jewish immigrants have experienced trauma as a result of violence and marginalization, yet crime rates for both groups are far lower than that of black Americans. The same could be said for refugees from South East Asia that arrived in the U.S during the Vietnam War. https://theredelephants.com/black-crime-is-the-biggest-problem-america-faces-not-racism/
Maybe this is a far better explanation, one that the Alabama team should get behind.
It is widely believed that black Americans commit violent crime at substantially higher rates than whites due to socioeconomic factors. This is a falsehood. By examining raw data provided by officially recognized institutions, it becomes clear that this is not the case.
In 1999, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York published an economic policy review titled ‘Unequal Incomes, Unequal outcomes? Economic Inequality and Measures of Well-Being.’ It is shown on table 5 of page 93 that people belonging to black families in the top income bracket committed up to 5 times the rate of crime whites did of the same income bracket. Moreover, from 1976 to 1995, offenders from the highest income bracket from black families committed a higher rate of violent crimes than the lowest income white families, at between 2 to 20 times the rate.
An analysis based on data provided by the U.S Bureau of Labor Statistics also proved something similar. The study ‘Race, Wealth and Incarceration: Results from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth,’ released in the academic journal ‘Race and Social Problems,’ reveals that “although higher levels of wealth were associated with lower rates of incarceration, the likelihood of future incarceration still was higher for blacks at every level of wealth compared to the white likelihood, as well as the Hispanic likelihood, which fell below the white likelihood for some levels of wealth.” It is also notable that Native Americans have generally had higher levels of poverty over the last 30 or so years, according to a study published by The Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality, yet still commit lower crime rates than blacks.
A Washington Post article titled ‘Poor white kids are less likely to go to prison than rich black kids’ examines the data and suggests “discrimination against people of color is more complicated and fundamental than economic inequality,” implying that institutional racism is behind the phenomenon. The problem with this argument, is that the black crime rate has gotten progressively worse since segregation. Similarly, the black out-of-wedlock rate has gotten far worse since segregation.
We should also consider the fact that Asians had less rights than blacks for many years, yet still commit the absolute lowest crime rate of any racial group in the United States. While blacks were granted constitutional rights of citizenship in 1865, Asians could only apply for citizenship after the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. Despite this, in many studies Asian people do not even have their own category in race-crime studies, often lumped in with other ethnic groups under the negligible ‘others’ crime rates.
Similarly, the argument for inter-generational trauma caused by slavery does not conclusively explain causation either. Both Native Americans and Jewish immigrants have experienced trauma as a result of violence and marginalization, yet crime rates for both groups are far lower than that of black Americans. The same could be said for refugees from South East Asia that arrived in the U.S during the Vietnam War. https://theredelephants.com/black-crime-is-the-biggest-problem-america-faces-not-racism/
Maybe this is a far better explanation, one that the Alabama team should get behind. This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 6/27/20 at 3:22 am to AuburnTigers
I don’t understand how hard headed you have to be to not understand how stupid this sounds.
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