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re: Alabama to offer Greg Marshall $3 large per year...

Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:32 pm to
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Who gives a shite how much we pay a coach? It's not like that money is coming out of your or any fans pocket.



It matters because if he pulls an Anthony Grant and can't cut it in a power conference job, we are stuck with him. He would demand an insane buyout that we would never pay. Winning in a power conference is 90% recruiting talent. We have no idea if Marshall can sit in a living room and convince a 5 star guard from Atlanta to come to Alabama instead of UNC.

Giving Marshall 5 million would be like Kentucky paying Chris Peterson 8 million back when he was at Boise.

He's worth 3-3.5.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:33 pm to
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Bama will not throw out over 3 mill for a coach.



It has already been confirmed by multiple sources that they are....
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:33 pm to
just a hunch
Posted by bamamonty
Jasper,Al
Member since Feb 2014
459 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:33 pm to
Because of the financial status of the athletic program, Bama can afford to be in the top five paid of all collegiate coaches. The benefits, just not the pay, make it a very attractive position. The new coach will be given a Saban type contract. That means the new coach will have complete control of the basketball program. Not many college coaches have that control.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6611 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:34 pm to
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Giving Marshall 5 million would be like Kentucky paying Chris Peterson 8 million back when he was at Boise.

He's worth 3-3.5.


You well could be correct, but he won't come for that. We are going to have to gamble a little and over pay a little to get him.

Worth the small gamble imo.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:34 pm to
Meh the guy is way more proven than Grant was.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34595 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:35 pm to
I agree with what you said about paying more to offset the risk of not going to a powerhouse. That said, there aren't any powerhouse vacancies. Marshall just isn't that $5M coach and to be honest I don't think that coach is out there this off season
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35833 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:36 pm to
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It matters because if he pulls an Anthony Grant and can't cut it in a power conference job, we are stuck with him. He would demand an insane buyout that we would never pay. Winning in a power conference is 90% recruiting talent. We have no idea if Marshall can sit in a living room and convince a 5 star guard from Atlanta to come to Alabama instead of UNC.

Giving Marshall 5 million would be like Kentucky paying Chris Peterson 8 million back when he was at Boise.

He's worth 3-3.5.



And why would a guy who's proven he can do it at a top program be leaving to come to Alabama again? If they can do it, they are successful and if they are successful they aren't leaving. If they aren't leaving we can't hire them.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:36 pm to
He is worth whatever we pay him. Again who cares how much we pay him. I understand your hiestation. I really do. But if we have a opportunity to get a coach like Marshall we pay him whatever it takes. If he fails, he fails. Our bball team struggles and we suck it up till he's gone and try again. I don't see why you or any other fan cares how much money we give him.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:37 pm to
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Marshall just isn't that $5M coach and to be honest I don't think that coach is out there this off season


I mean he is a top 10 coach in America. If Bama has to spend a bit extra to hire him then I am all for it.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6611 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:38 pm to
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Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6611 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

quote:
Marshall just isn't that $5M coach and to be honest I don't think that coach is out there this off season



I mean he is a top 10 coach in America. If Bama has to spend a bit extra to hire him then I am all for it.




My feeling exactly. We will have to over pay because we are not UNC or Indiana, but worth it in the long run.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34595 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:46 pm to
I think he may be worth that much at the success level he's sustaining at Whichita State, but I don't know that it translates to Alabama. And you'll be paying most of his salary toward rebuilding years. And this is a guy that hasn't done it in a major conference and hasn't recruited too terribly well despite his success. I don't know that those small, gritty, overlooked in Kansas players can stack up week after week in the SEC.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:46 pm to
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Recent history? So... we're narrowing it down to just Hobbs and Gottfried? You're claiming that Gottfried has been successful since we fired him. Hobbs took a year off and then was an assistant at UK for 7 years, 5 of those years as Assistant Head Coach. Then was a scout for the bobcats and was that Japanese head coach for a short time.


No, I included Wimp (UALR), Hobbs(?), Gottfried (NCS) and Grant(?). I did not include Newton, because I am not sure why he left for Vandy. My point is neither AL or AU has been used to improve Coaches careers.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:48 pm to
I seriously love the idea in here that Greg Marshall couldn't translate to the SEC
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:49 pm to
Thad Matta salary: 3.1 mil

You offer him 5-6 million first, then Sean Miller, then you try Marshall at 3.5.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

You offer him 5-6 million first, then Sean Miller, then you try Marshall at 3.5.



Those 2 are at schools that would match.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34595 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:52 pm to
Didn't say it can't. I just think at $5m/5yrs based on what he built at Wichita state is a huge gamble. If you're wrong then you've sank a decade into promising but unproven coaches from small conferences
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 9:53 pm
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6611 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:52 pm to
Not that it really matters, but Marshall (WSU) was runner up to Alabama on Dazon Ingram, so he has recruited this state. No shame in losing a kid to the home state school, when it require a good bit of travel to attend your University.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:53 pm to
If we plan to move up the ladder we got to have the leadership to take us there. If we have to pay a top 10 coach a premium to come to UA do it. If are happy at the NIT fine. But a lot of poeple aren't .
If you can get him,do it. You could be no worse off than you were this year.
Many poeple want in that poker game at the top of the stairs, but few have the money and the balls to climb them to get in.

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