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re: ALA v. MSU Who has the better Secondary?

Posted on 10/22/12 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by HeauxMeaux
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 7:44 pm to
Bama & I don't need stats for reasoning.
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 7:51 pm to
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Are you familiar with Johnthan Banks you gump?


Yeah. Are you familiar with the fact that Milliner is better than he is you perennial loser?
Posted by jddawg58
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 8:02 pm to
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Just no. I believe that Banks is better, but regardless who edges out the other, nobody's ">>>" anybody, they're both all-american caliber.

Looking at the other positions, I'll take Slay, Broomfield, and Whitley over Belue, Lester, and Sunseri. When you start talking about depth, that's when Bama's secondary's much better.



No question about it, MSU has the best secondary in the Sunbelt this year.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 8:59 pm
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 8:53 pm to
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State's defense has played against better offenses than Bama's D-
GTFO. Miss State played againse AU whose offense is listed as #119 out of #120. AU is the team Banks got 2 of his interceptions and Slay got 1 of his.

Banks Interceptions - 2 against AU; 1 against South Alabama (1AA school); and 1 against Middle Tenn

Slays Interceptions - 1 against AU; 1 against Jackson St (1AA school); and 2 against Troy (good offense #22)

Millner got his against #61 Michigan and #38 Ole Miss. Lester got his against #38 Ole Miss and #34 Tennessee. Deon Belue got one agains #38 Ole Miss.

Ha Ha and Vinnie both got one from Arkansas which has a better offense even with a backup qb than Auburn does with their starter.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:04 pm to
LSU, always the correct answer here. Do you not read the posts?
Posted by engie
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:07 pm to
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Lester is projected top 3 rounds this draft. Also higher than any MSU safety.


Some of you dumbasses should actually do a little research before throwing shite against a wall.
Posted by jddawg58
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:11 pm to
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State's defense has played against better offenses than Bama's D-


GTFO. Miss State played againse AU whose offense is listed as #119 out of #120. AU is the team Banks got 2 of his interceptions and Slay got 1 of his.

Banks Interceptions - 2 against AU; 1 against South Alabama (1AA school); and 1 against Middle Tenn

Slays Interceptions - 1 against AU; 1 against Jackson St (1AA school); and 2 against Troy (good offense #22)



But MSU has the best secondary in the country even though
1)they give up over 50 more yards a game than Bama,
2)Bama has more total interceptions and a higher percentage of passes intercepted,
3)Bama opponents completion rate is 50%, MSU is 58%
4)Bama has given up 2 passing tds, MSU has given up 5 passing tds.


They have worse stats while playing 3 Sunbelt schools, a SWAC school, and 3 winless SEC teams.

Hell, Missouri would be 7-0 with this schedule.

Talk about being born on third base and thought they hit a triple.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Klongdawg
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:15 pm to
I hope one of your WR goes over the middle. Nickoe will be waiting to knock a Bammer head off.
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:16 pm to
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Some of you dumbasses should actually do a little research before throwing shite against a wall.


Show me what is incorrect with that statement...
Posted by MSUDawg4Life
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:17 pm to
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I hope one of your WR goes over the middle. Nickoe will be waiting to knock a Bammer head off.


Don't tell them. They are clueless.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:18 pm to
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1)they give up over 50 more yards a game than Bama,
2)Bama has more total interceptions and a higher percentage of passes intercepted,
3)Bama opponents completion rate is 50%, MSU is 58%
4)Bama has given up 2 passing tds, MSU has given up 5 passing tds.



State has played better offenses- period. Not sure how many times I have to tell you that. Bama plays against back-up QB's from UPig as well.

Then you factor in pass rush and such that also affect those stats- you have no case.

I'll bet State throws for more yards than Bama does Saturday night- you can blee dat
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:19 pm to
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I hope one of your WR goes over the middle. Nickoe will be waiting to knock a Bammer head off.



Who? Oh, you mean the guy that was projected as a first round free safety prior to his achilles tear last year? The one that is still projected to go in the top 3 rounds and likely to move higher as he proves to be 100%? Oh yeah, him! The forgotten head hunter.

Milliner should write Nickoe a thank you letter for the footsteps Hunter heard when he dropped the sure TD pass that he burned Milliner's arse on...
Posted by jddawg58
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:21 pm to
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hope one of your WR goes over the middle. Nickoe will be waiting to knock a Bammer head off.


Nickoe can introduce himself to Michael Williams, TE, 6'5" 275 lbs and proceed to "have some."

I doubt if he will be close enough to Amari Cooper to take his head off.
Posted by WiredToTheJD
Oxford, Mississippi
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:22 pm to
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Milliner should write Nickoe a thank you letter for the footsteps Hunter heard when he dropped the sure TD pass that he burned Milliner's arse on...



Best grind I have seen today.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:23 pm to


That projects into the 2nd or 3rd round...coming off major injury. He was previously the #2 FS on the board behind Reid and will be going back there momentarily.
Posted by Klongdawg
Member since Oct 2010
8294 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:25 pm to
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Nickoe can introduce himself to Michael Williams, TE, 6'5" 275 lbs and proceed to "have some."


Nickoe don't give a frick how big you are. He will come a knocking. He delivers the blow.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:26 pm to
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Nickoe can introduce himself to Michael Williams, TE, 6'5" 275 lbs and proceed to "have some."


I promise you he's scared... look at how he shies away from contact with this 6'3 343lb OG...
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Posted by Bamad
Calera, AL
Member since May 2010
5315 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:30 pm to
What quarter of the game against Troy did your starters come out?
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:31 pm to
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That projects into the 2nd or 3rd round...coming off major injury. He was previously the #2 FS on the board behind Reid and will be going back there momentarily.


OK? Lester projects in round 2-3 as the #2 ranked SS for the '13 draft on that same draft site...which is higher than what you just posted.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 9:32 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:35 pm to
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Milliner should write Nickoe a thank you letter for the footsteps Hunter heard when he dropped the sure TD pass that he burned Milliner's arse on...
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