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re: Well, it looks like Bianco decided to take a year off
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:17 pm to BalladofBradSowell
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:17 pm to BalladofBradSowell
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I hate to play this card, but my line of employment does allow me to have a very good perspective and understanding of how these teams are managed.
I guarantee my line of employment is better. Not to mention I have multiple connections to how the team/practice was run specifically.
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If you were that into baseball you'd realize how insignificant that evidence is.
This is bullshite. So BA and power numbers have no effect on winning? Or doesn't show a different in coaching? gtfo
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:22 pm to HottyToddy7
I know that all the baseball players that I talked to the last couple of years had more respect for Godwin than Bianco. Of course that is just my experience, but just seems odd that every one of them I talked to said the same thing.
There was a time I was hoping we would fire Bianco and hire Godwin in his place. I knew we would regress substantially when he left.
There was a time I was hoping we would fire Bianco and hire Godwin in his place. I knew we would regress substantially when he left.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:28 pm to HottyToddy7
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I guarantee my line of employment is better.
quote:No, you aren't understanding me. Your evidence has little relevancy because it's selective sampling of minuscule sample sizes. Both are major flaws when it comes to baseball research in general.
This is bullshite. So BA and power numbers have no effect on winning? Or doesn't show a different in coaching? gtfo
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:31 pm to BalladofBradSowell
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are you saying you have better access to the topic at hand?
I have had plenty of access to the team and my chosen field puts me in a great perspective to understand the game of baseball at its highest levels. But this is irrelevant. Helen Keller could see the difference in our offensive production between 13/15 and 14.
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Your evidence has little relevancy because it's selective sampling of minuscule sample sizes. Both are major flaws when it comes to baseball research in general.
I dont understand how a comparison of the same exact timespan (A complete season) and the same exact stats over that time span isnt a legit source of evidence.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:03 pm to HottyToddy7
quote:Game to game, week to week, season to season; one of the problems you're going to have with college baseball is that it's hard to prove anything on an individual player or team level due to the short seasons and turnover rate. You can study trends across leagues, but that's about it. There's a reason MLB scouting departments extrapolate very very little from college box score metrics. The importance of sample size and selective sampling in baseball is not something I can easily explain (and you're definitely not going to take my word for it after aggressively calling you out (I apologize)). It's one of those things that has to come through experience and understanding. For example (and this is an extreme case of sizing due to what's being studied), one of the projects I have been working on for 2 years works off a pool of 30+ variables for every pitch in every MLB game over that time frame. Our assistant GM still doesn't think the sample size is sufficient.
I dont understand how a comparison of the same exact timespan (A complete season) and the same exact stats over that time span isnt a legit source of evidence?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:45 pm to rebelrouser
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We have the best three coaches (baseball, basketball, football) that we've ever had. I don't think any of them should be fired and especially Freeze. The West is a monster right now and it takes a great coach just to keep your head above water.

Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:20 pm to BalladofBradSowell
Interesting. That makes sense. So what measurables are looked at in evaluating players and ranking them if box score stats aren't used?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:50 pm to HottyToddy7
They're mostly evaluated on measurables as in tools. From a pitching perspective the only independent box score variables that are even looked at are K's, BB's, and HR's allowed. This is a kind of dumb but loosely relevant metaphor: They aren't shopping for a nice sculpture. They're looking for the biggest and finest quality chunk of granite that they can sculpt themselves. It's one of the advantages to minor league systems and relatively long player lives.
That kind of plays into it when we strictly talk about the metrics that are evaluated. BB's and K's are useful because they are good gauges of command. Most of the other metrics that are looked at are going to be physical. Next time you go to an Ole Miss game see if you can spot a box outside of the press box area. It will either be the size of a computer screen and white or the size of a picnic table and black. Ole Miss probably didn't pay for it, but I know for a fact it's there. That box uploads all kinds of data to a company in Denmark, who adds it to a very large data pool, who then sells access to MLB organizations. It literally measures everything: pitch RPM, release velocity, plate velocity, pitch deceleration, axial tilt, vertical and horizontal break, exit velocity, travel distance, etc, etc. It even uses algorithms to classify pitch types and determine umpire efficiency. They can dissect every single pitch and ball-in-play that has occurs in OM's ballpark. That tells them a lot more about a player's potential than an ERA or WHIP.
That kind of plays into it when we strictly talk about the metrics that are evaluated. BB's and K's are useful because they are good gauges of command. Most of the other metrics that are looked at are going to be physical. Next time you go to an Ole Miss game see if you can spot a box outside of the press box area. It will either be the size of a computer screen and white or the size of a picnic table and black. Ole Miss probably didn't pay for it, but I know for a fact it's there. That box uploads all kinds of data to a company in Denmark, who adds it to a very large data pool, who then sells access to MLB organizations. It literally measures everything: pitch RPM, release velocity, plate velocity, pitch deceleration, axial tilt, vertical and horizontal break, exit velocity, travel distance, etc, etc. It even uses algorithms to classify pitch types and determine umpire efficiency. They can dissect every single pitch and ball-in-play that has occurs in OM's ballpark. That tells them a lot more about a player's potential than an ERA or WHIP.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:42 pm to BalladofBradSowell
I never realized it was that in depth. I guess thinking on it that with that much money involved that the technology would eventually get to that point but that is insane to think about. How many bodies does an average organization have to dig through that ocean of data and huge player pool to compare and evaluate the players?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 9:37 pm to rebelrouser
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We have the best three coaches (baseball, basketball, football) that we've ever had. I don't think any of them should be fired and especially Freeze.
I agree with this competely. I find it insane that people have such a short leash on coaches.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 9:40 pm to WhistlinDixie15
For all of you that think I am against Bianco, go read my post again... sheesh!
I was simply stating that some people would be screaming for his head... as in he doesn't deserve it but they will and you know it. I've already heard grumbling from some and I have to point to our baseball records before he was our coach to remind them how successful he has been.
I was simply stating that some people would be screaming for his head... as in he doesn't deserve it but they will and you know it. I've already heard grumbling from some and I have to point to our baseball records before he was our coach to remind them how successful he has been.
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