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Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:11 pm to OMReb21
Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:11 pm to OMReb21
The only way Overbey starts over Anderson is if Anderson isn't 100% in two weeks.
Anderson is a much more complete player than Jake. He's error prone, but he has better range than any other infielder on the team. He's also very underrated offensively. He was in the top 3 in the league in BB/SO ratio last season, but probably had the lowest BABIP (batting avg on balls in play) in the SEC. BABIP measures luck. Anyone who picks up a bat is expected to have a .300 BABIP. Anderson finished at .180 on the season. That's a strong indicator that his batting average was very deflated. I expect him to hit .300 this year if not better. He'll also have a high OB%. The only person better than him at not striking out is Tanner Mathis.
Anderson is a much more complete player than Jake. He's error prone, but he has better range than any other infielder on the team. He's also very underrated offensively. He was in the top 3 in the league in BB/SO ratio last season, but probably had the lowest BABIP (batting avg on balls in play) in the SEC. BABIP measures luck. Anyone who picks up a bat is expected to have a .300 BABIP. Anderson finished at .180 on the season. That's a strong indicator that his batting average was very deflated. I expect him to hit .300 this year if not better. He'll also have a high OB%. The only person better than him at not striking out is Tanner Mathis.
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:13 pm to BarstoolRodeo
Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:13 pm to BarstoolRodeo
Nice post. Yeah, I think Anderson is the sure-fire starter. Got the two mixed up somehow.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:23 pm to OMReb21
Yeah saw your post right after I posted but decided not to edit. I just saw an argument I've practiced and jumped at it. I argued this relentlessly with one Rivals poster last year. It turned out to be Newalu's dad.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:26 pm to BalladofBradSowell
Haha that is pretty awesome! I wish I could have seen that conversation.
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:33 pm to BalladofBradSowell
Newalu was better than Anderson last year offensively and defensively. I wish we had him for another year.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:42 pm to HottyToddy7
I'm not sure about this team. I would like to think its our year but I just don't see it. Pitching is obviously the strong point of this team. It looks like its going to be small ball this year at the plate which is fine as long as it works. I don't care we don't reach the top 10 in HR's as long as we score runs and win games. Having said that...its always nice to have those 1-2 sure thing power guys in the lineup. Hopefully Gatlin/Overbey will step up and fill that gap. Either way, very excited for baseball.
Is it just me or do we always have one or the other and never both the same year....Pitching/Hitters.....
Is it just me or do we always have one or the other and never both the same year....Pitching/Hitters.....
Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:48 pm to CajunRebel
Orvis will be our power guy. Allen has the ability to hit bombs but is more of a gap to gap type guy. Preston Overbey can hit bombs but needs to learn to get it in play with 2 strikes. Mathis and Bousfield should be pretty solid hitters at the plate. We need guys like Anderson and Jamison to step up and at least have productive AB's, like moving runners and and getting deep in counts.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:53 pm to HottyToddy7
quote:No he wasn't. Anderson's range factor was a half point higher than Newalu's. You're also basing their offensive performance based on batting average alone. Newalu hit the ball well last year, but his plate discipline was shite. His BB/SO ratio was 1:13. In comparison Anderson was 3rd in the league at 19:9. Their OB%'s were similar even though Anderson's BABIP was awful.
Newalu was better than Anderson last year offensively and defensively. I wish we had him for another year.
Honestly though, I don't care about offense at SS. defensive range is first and foremost in my opinion. I wish we had Newalu this year too, but he would be playing 2nd.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:57 pm to HottyToddy7
Yea, you're right. I forget about Orvis. Allen is a pure hitter and really like his bat...he reminds me a lot of Posada. I think we can be productive with a little more patience at teh plate.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:58 pm to BalladofBradSowell
Anderson has more shite AB's than anyone in the team. He was also an error machine. Newalu was the king is moving runners over and getting runs in from 3rd with less than 2 outs. Ill trade range for offensive efficiency and making the rutine plays at SS all day long.
I'm not trying to argue but this is an interesting discussion to get into.
I'm not trying to argue but this is an interesting discussion to get into.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:02 pm to HottyToddy7
Agreed.
I honestly had a "Oh chit Andersons up" feeling everytime he came to bat. I felt comfortable with Newalu at the plate.
It doesn't matter how many times you DONT strikeout, if you don't produce runs/hits consistantly, it does no good. I'll take a guy who strikes out a lot but has a .300 average over someone who has 0 strikeouts and a .180 average anyday.
I honestly had a "Oh chit Andersons up" feeling everytime he came to bat. I felt comfortable with Newalu at the plate.
It doesn't matter how many times you DONT strikeout, if you don't produce runs/hits consistantly, it does no good. I'll take a guy who strikes out a lot but has a .300 average over someone who has 0 strikeouts and a .180 average anyday.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:19 pm to CajunRebel
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:26 pm to BalladofBradSowell
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:27 pm to BalladofBradSowell
Dammit, switched computers and realized I was posting under my friend's name. I also suck at editing.
You're arguments are certainly valid. I'm looking at it from a projection standpoint vs. replicating last year's numbers. I took a side with Anderson last year and feel obligated to stand by it. I still stand by my opinion though. I think his defensive ceiling is much higher, and his on-base capability it s higher. We'll see though. I put a lot of stock into OB% vs AVG.
-Barstool
You're arguments are certainly valid. I'm looking at it from a projection standpoint vs. replicating last year's numbers. I took a side with Anderson last year and feel obligated to stand by it. I still stand by my opinion though. I think his defensive ceiling is much higher, and his on-base capability it s higher. We'll see though. I put a lot of stock into OB% vs AVG.
-Barstool
This post was edited on 1/31/13 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:27 pm to BalladofBradSowell
No, I'm not downplaying that at all. But thats the thing...I seriously doubt Anderson's OBP is higher than Newalu.
I would agree that Anderson is slightly better than Newalu defensively but I don't think its that much better to make-up the difference.
I would agree that Anderson is slightly better than Newalu defensively but I don't think its that much better to make-up the difference.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:29 pm to BalladofBradSowell
I know Anderson has the potential to hit for a good average and potentially be a better hitter than Newalu. Anderson just didn't do the stuff numbers don't count for. Numerous times late in games with a guy on second, he couldn't find a way to get him to 3rd or score a guy from 3rd with less than 2 out. Newalu did more times than not.
it was just a trend throughout the season that Newalu was a much better situational hitter than Anderson. A lot like Mort was the 2 years before Newalu.
Anderson can work on that and I hope he has but he had some bad at bats that didn't cost us games but didn't do the little things to put yourself in position to win either.
it was just a trend throughout the season that Newalu was a much better situational hitter than Anderson. A lot like Mort was the 2 years before Newalu.
Anderson can work on that and I hope he has but he had some bad at bats that didn't cost us games but didn't do the little things to put yourself in position to win either.
This post was edited on 1/31/13 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:32 pm to HottyToddy7
Well said. Some things just don't show up in the stat book.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:37 pm to CajunRebel
quote:Actually if you eliminate pitching error and take away both player's HBP Anderson's OB% is 10 points higher than Newalu's.
No, I'm not downplaying that at all. But thats the thing...I seriously doubt Anderson's OBP is higher than Newalu.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:40 pm to CajunRebel
quote:I completely agree. I'm a metric guy though. I believe in luck more than I should and clutch less than I should. It just comes with the territory.
Some things just don't show up in the stat book.
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