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re: At what point does it cross the line for you?
Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:19 pm to TSUNRebel
Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:19 pm to TSUNRebel
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I was accused of causing an oppressive work environment because of an Ole Miss logo. Not the Colonel, not the Confederate flag and not even the word Rebels.
Just the "Ole Miss" lettering.
I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. There is nothing offensive about the Ole Miss script.
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:20 pm to Whereisomaha
I would want the athletic department to suffer because of it and that's the most direct way I can help make that happen.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:20 pm to TSUNRebel
First off no one cares about some of y'all no longer donating. If Ole Miss is winning it won't matter that you don't.
The NAACP just wants attention. All the moves are calculated moves for attention. It has nothing to do with actually fighting for something. Just a fight to keep themselves relevant.
I agree with Whereisomaha. I don't really have much of a breaking point. I think FDWL is one of the most beautiful songs ever. If you had no idea what the words were or the history tied to the song most would agree. I will say however when Dixie is played it feels kinda weird. Almost like you walked back into 1960. I guess that is part of the nostalgia, but I get how it could make one feel weird.
The NAACP just wants attention. All the moves are calculated moves for attention. It has nothing to do with actually fighting for something. Just a fight to keep themselves relevant.
I agree with Whereisomaha. I don't really have much of a breaking point. I think FDWL is one of the most beautiful songs ever. If you had no idea what the words were or the history tied to the song most would agree. I will say however when Dixie is played it feels kinda weird. Almost like you walked back into 1960. I guess that is part of the nostalgia, but I get how it could make one feel weird.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:21 pm to Doresrules
quote:If you think our big donors won't stop sending money if they get rid of either, you're sorely mistaken.
First off no one cares about some of y'all no longer donating. If Ole Miss is winning it won't matter that you don't.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:32 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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If you think our big donors won't stop sending money if they get rid of either, you're sorely mistaken.
Why is it that the people who threaten to not donate to Ole Miss anymore don't donate in the first place?
I know a lady who said she would never attend another Ole Miss game if the Black Bear was our mascot. Sure enough, I have seen her at every game I've gone to since then. Empty threats are the pits.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:32 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Voting to take the flag down is a rebellious act in itself, which should be reminded to anyone who is against the name rebels.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 7:34 pm to DingDongEddieStrong
2d line of Dixie:
"Ole Missus marry Will de Weeber,
Will was a gay deceeber..."
"Ole Missus marry Will de Weeber,
Will was a gay deceeber..."
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:53 pm to Sancho Panza
Honestly, I think our school does more damage by bringing negative attention to this silly shite over and over and over again.
Get rid of the confederate flag.
Other than that, none of the other "old south" symbols associated with the school are recognizable by people outside of the deep south. Literally no one in New York or California gives a frick about or understands the controversy behind Colonel Reb and From Dixie with Love.
The people we are trying to appease already assume everyone in Mississippi is racist for entirely unrelated reasons and that will never change no matter how much Ole Miss bows down to the PC police.
Get rid of the confederate flag.
Other than that, none of the other "old south" symbols associated with the school are recognizable by people outside of the deep south. Literally no one in New York or California gives a frick about or understands the controversy behind Colonel Reb and From Dixie with Love.
The people we are trying to appease already assume everyone in Mississippi is racist for entirely unrelated reasons and that will never change no matter how much Ole Miss bows down to the PC police.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 10:00 pm to DocHoliday11
FDWL pretty much did, although I have to admit the students fricked it all up. So long as they keep screaming it at the Library, it's full version is never coming back. I heard the recent remix of it though, and it's not all that bad instead of just going to "I saw the light" as I heard previously. Ole Miss and Rebels though is the line. It's why I think Ackbar was such a missed opportunity.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 10:02 pm to YouDontKnowBro
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The people we are trying to appease already assume everyone in Mississippi is racist for entirely unrelated reasons and that will never change no matter how much Ole Miss bows down to the PC police.
This 100%.
No matter what we do people will still always know us as "that racist school"
Frankly if people or players don't want to come to OM because they think everything and everyone is racist here then I don't want them at the school. They in my opinion are part of what's wrong with everything and the school will be better off not having them on campus.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 10:06 pm to sorantable
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We should never be content with continuing to glorify any type of Civil War or pre-Civil Rights paraphernalia in any form.
frick every single one of the racist fricks that have given us this egregious reputation that, in the face of having made more progress in this area than any other institution in the United States of America, we still aren't able to live down.
frick every single one of them and their damn flags too.
frick you too for good measure.
What pisses me off about this site in particular is we are labelled as racist klansmen in one sentence due to our history, but when we try to distance ourselves from it, we are labelled as liberal politically correct pussies. We just can't win.
And living outside of Mississippi, I am tired of being consistently stereotyped as a bunch of racist idiots. I grew up 10 minutes outside of Memphis, and when I say that I'm from there, no one gives a shite. When I say I'm from Mississippi, the same people treat me as if I have an IQ near freezing point. Yes these people are clearly stupid assholes, but just clinging to Confederate imagery is just dumb on our part.
There have been plenty of good rebellion causes, so we should never change that, and I think "Ole Miss" is overly simplifying what the people had in mind when they came up with the University's nickname. It's just short for "Old Mississippi" as far as I'm concerned, which I don't care about. Yes I know some people will say the Confederate flag is just Southern heritage, but a large portion of this country finds that offensive. Only the biggest pussies find the words "Ole Miss" offensive.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 10/27/15 at 10:09 pm to GnashRebel
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Germans with monuments to soldiers from WWII? No.
Well, I may have a problem with SS Officers having a memorial dedicated to them.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 10:12 pm to Whereisomaha
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I could give two shits about most of it. I honestly cant wait until they stop playing "dixie". I cant believe we still do that. Idolizing the civil war and those who fell just isnt important to me. And if I know more about civil war history than you, then it doesnt matter to you either, you just like to bitch.
Dixie was just the most popular tune at the time and they decided to take it up since it referenced the South. It was written by a guy from Ohio. I will have a problem if they take that one away.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 11:25 pm to YouDontKnowBro
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Other than that, none of the other "old south" symbols associated with the school are recognizable by people outside of the deep south. Literally no one in New York or California gives a frick about or understands the controversy behind Colonel Reb and From Dixie with Love.
The people we are trying to appease already assume everyone in Mississippi is racist for entirely unrelated reasons and that will never change no matter how much Ole Miss bows down to the PC police.
I live in and have spent a lot of time in California. I can confirm no one cares about Colonel Reb and FDWL. To them Colonel Reb might as well be Colonel Sanders.
To be entirely honest, most everyone in California thinks the entire South is racist, not just Mississippi.
Most importantly, Ole Miss here has zero racist implications, and is honestly probably more beneficial because is distances itself from saying Mississippi in its entirety and rather establishes its own brand.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:20 am to Henry Jones Jr
Then please show those big donors the door. I'm certain we can find new ones. Its a new normal. We can't move forward constantly holding on to the past.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:22 am to Doresrules
It's not wanting to hold on to the past.
It's not wanting to go from "The Ole Miss Rebels" to "The Mississippi Black Bears"
It's not wanting to go from "The Ole Miss Rebels" to "The Mississippi Black Bears"
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:32 am to GatorReb
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"The Mississippi Black Bears"
TA would shite a brick
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 1:33 am
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:34 am to DocHoliday11
I really couldn't give a shite about 99% of it.
Flag? Nope
Dixie? Nope
Colonel Reb? Nope
Monuments? Nope
Street Names? Nope
I would be upset if we got rid of ole Miss and Rebels just like everybody else. I wouldn't stop supporting the school I love though. Its silly not too and i challenge that if takimg away a nickname would cause you to turn your back on the school, you probably don't care about it as much as you think you do. The memories and experiences I have thanks to the University of Mississippi are still there. Can't take those away.
And people are still going to use the term Ole Miss. Maybe not in a hundred years, but then who cares, right?
Flag? Nope
Dixie? Nope
Colonel Reb? Nope
Monuments? Nope
Street Names? Nope
I would be upset if we got rid of ole Miss and Rebels just like everybody else. I wouldn't stop supporting the school I love though. Its silly not too and i challenge that if takimg away a nickname would cause you to turn your back on the school, you probably don't care about it as much as you think you do. The memories and experiences I have thanks to the University of Mississippi are still there. Can't take those away.
And people are still going to use the term Ole Miss. Maybe not in a hundred years, but then who cares, right?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:06 am to UMRealist
Memphis changed its name from Memphis State to University of Memphis in 1994. People still call it Memphis State at times over 20 years later.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:21 am to Whereisomaha
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It is unique and it distances our-self from simply Mississippi in the way that I feel Oxford differs from most of the state. It is different from the rest of the state and I like not having "Mississippi" in our name.
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I unlike a lot of Mississippians, and Im sure some of you, do not take pride in my home state. We are last in everything and the state as a whole brings down the school I love at least in perception.
You've got to be kidding with this shite.
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