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re: Andy Kennedy is the worst

Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:08 pm to
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If we made the tourney and AK is hired away we could circumvent the division that would take place within our fanbase... Do you agree or disagree Pank ?




If we make the tourny I fail to see any reason for a division in our fan base....
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:09 pm to
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You have a good point. That's the reason I think he won't get dumped this year.



If we enter the SEC tourny as a 3 seed, there shouldn't even be any thought about him getting dumped this year.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:14 pm to


I'd almost forgotten how big an OM homer you are... Almost
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:18 pm to
I'm tired of seeing the same dumb shite every year. Bad shot selection, terrible FT %, lack of ability to keep teams off the offensive boards. It's the 7th version of the same team.

If you can't make the tournament with the all time leader in blocks at OM, the all time leader in rebounds at OM and the single season 3 points made record holder at OM then you aren't going to make the tournament.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:19 pm to
I just don't see the point of why some of our fans would rather be proven right and lose than be proven wrong and win.


The scenario you posted is perfect proof of this. AK gets to the tourny and you say the fan base will still be divided over him. This proves to me that it's a personal problem with AK and not a success problem. If he makes the tourny this year than every single, logical reasoning for any OM fan to dislike AK is thrown out the window. The only thing they have is "well, I just don't like him".


If seeing this same trend going on for years makes me an OM homer....then so be it. I guess I'm one of the few who doesn't make things personal with coaches.
Posted by FreezusFollower
Oxford
Member since Oct 2012
609 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:26 pm to
One of those years we started 16-0 and couldn't make the tourney!!!!

I still think the year Chris Warren tore his ACL we would have made it. Starting 5 was

1. CW
2. Terrico/ Zach G
3.Terrance H/Zach G
4.Murph
5. I think a frosh or sophomore Buck
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
51319 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

The scenario you posted is perfect proof of this. AK gets to the tourny and you say the fan base will still be divided over him. This proves to me that it's a personal problem with AK and not a success problem. If he makes the tourny this year than every single, logical reasoning for any OM fan to dislike AK is thrown out the window. The only thing they have is "well, I just don't like him".

Pretty much this.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:28 pm to
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I'm tired of seeing the same dumb shite every year. Bad shot selection, terrible FT %, lack of ability to keep teams off the offensive boards. It's the 7th version of the same team.


We lead the SEC in ppg and 3rd in FT%. We're first in offensive rebounding and 3rd in defensive rebounding. The quote above is absolutely irrelevant to this season.

This is a perfect case of selective memory. You obviously remember last season when we were dead last in FT%. But you quickly forget how we were 1st in FT% the year before. We were 10th the year before that and 3rd the year before that.

Remember one season we were incredibly guard heavy and we had a great FT%. Then remember the year where we lost 3 guards to ACL injuries......Your FT% is obviously going to shite the bed when you end up having to rely that heavily on your big-men. Same thing happened last year.

So obviously.....your comment about "7th version of the same team" is just over-exaggerated bullshite with no actual evidence supporting it.

quote:


If you can't make the tournament with the all time leader in blocks at OM, the all time leader in rebounds at OM and the single season 3 points made record holder at OM then you aren't going to make the tournament.


and no one is denying this.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
18144 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:36 pm to
Nothing personal about it... OM has paid the guy millions of dollars to get us to the NCAA tourney... He hasnt... I really want OM to get over the hump in basketball... I want us to make some noise in the SEC tourney and win some games in the Big Dance... I just don't think AK is gonna be the coach to accomplish those goals... He hasn't done anything during his tenure in Oxford that would lead me to believe he will do any of the things I've listed... I hope like hell I'm wrong...But if I'm right I'm not gonna jump On the boards and say "I told you so."
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 12:38 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
69338 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:41 pm to
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I want us to make some noise in the SEC tourney and win some games in the Big Dance... I just don't think AK is gonna be the coach to accomplish those goals... he's done


How can you say "he's done" with where we're standing right now?


quote:

I really want OM to get over the hump in basketball


As do we all....you just don't want it to be with AK....for whatever reason. you've already admitted to the fan base remaining divided over AK regardless of whether or not he makes it to the NCAA this year. That portion of the fan base is irrational and stupid. And I go on record as saying such.
Posted by FreezusFollower
Oxford
Member since Oct 2012
609 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:43 pm to
The thing that makes me mad is no structure on offense. We give up layups/dunks, foul on a layup/dunk, give up open 3 looks(whether they are making them or not we win/lose), or we get a rare steal/block. That's how our defense goes.

Also, it seems like our guys never get any better. You don't see much improvement from year to year
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:44 pm to
You misquoted me
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 12:47 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
69338 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

The thing that makes me mad is no structure on offense


This is one of the anti-AK things I've always loved.

quote:

We give up layups/dunks, foul on a layup/dunk, give up open 3 looks(whether they are making them or not we win/lose)


And we're obviously the only team who fouls, lets people take open 3's, et....

quote:

we get a rare steal/block


we're 4th in steals and 2nd in blocks. Argument invalid. Come on guys....it's not hard at all to look up stats.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
69338 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

You misquoted me



By all means....correct what I assumed you meant by this quote.

quote:

If we made the tourney and AK is hired away we could circumvent the division that would take place within our fanbase
Posted by jeff967
Monroe, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
925 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:02 pm to
we gonna fire us another coach?!!!!!
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:05 pm to
I had this friend in high school I played baseball with. I really liked him and we had a bunch of good times together. Well he started to get bad off on drugs, and every time I would hear rumors about it I would get pissed at him and call him. He would always say "man I don't frick with that shite anymore, I went to rehab an I've been doing great", and I would get a feeling of relief and be happy for my friend once again. Then a few weeks later I'd hear something else about him, except an even worse drug this time. I would once again scold him and he would talk about how he was doing better now, and I would believe him. This cycle went on and on several times until finally I got to the point where I couldn't believe anything he said and I just cut ties with him.

I hate it for him, but he taught me a very valuable lesson on how naive I was, and I haven't fallen for something so foolish in a long time.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
69338 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:10 pm to
so you're equating free throw percentage to habitual drug use?

:scratcheshead:
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:13 pm to
This has nothing to do with free throw percentage, and everything to do with how much of a failure Kennedy is.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
69338 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:20 pm to
quote:


This has nothing to do with free throw percentage, and everything to do with how much of a failure Kennedy is.



your story has absolutely nothing to do about basketball.

There are plenty of people who were bad off on drugs but actually DID change. How exactly is your story any more relevant to the topic at hand than those people? My best friend was REALLY bad off on several different drugs for a long time. Now he has a great family, goes to church, runs his own business and has been clean for quite a few years. Does this mean we should give AK and contract extension?
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 1:21 pm
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:35 pm to
It means I've seen this movie many times, and I'm not gonna fall for it again. As of now we probably have the third most talented team in the a TERRIBLE SEC, I'm talking about the only guy averaging a double double, the leading scorer in the conference, and the leading shot blocker in school history. All of that, and we lose to Texas A&M and fricking South Carolina, a team that the worst team in SEC history was able to defeat. And when do these losses come? Oh you know, just the second half of conference play, when you should really be building your tournament resume and gaining momentum. But it's ok, AK teams have never choked towards the end of the stretch, right?

There is no excuse for South Carolina, and I won't forgive him for it. We have no effective game plan or adjustments, we live and die with Henderson, an AK knows it, that's why he doesn't dare to question any of his buffoonery. Our perimeter defense is porous, and is not improving. We have two of the best big men in the league that we don't take advantage of, most of their points are on put backs.

We will lose to LSU, and then we will lose in the second round of the SEC tourney (which is another thing we do every fricking year, if not the first round), and then all of this will be over, AK will be gone, and I will be happy.

Squandering his talent this year with the shape the league is in is worse than what stansbury did last year, and I didn't think that was possible.
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