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re: Who taught the first teacher?

Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:57 pm to
I'll be off until at least Monday, but think about this, please: how can you be a Christian and not believe Christ's words (aka the Bible)?

To stave off any questions about which Bible is accurate, let me recommend the book "One Book Stands Alone."
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:24 pm to
I have read the bible. Two years of Catholic High School! A minor in Religion!

Jesus said diddly doo da about the age of the Earth. That was cobbled together in the early half of last century by some noted err... profiteers.

So, as you have read the Bible you know that it describes exactly how to perform an abortion in those ages. And that if you eat shellfish (shrimp) you are burning in hell. Or that if you conquer a village you should kill everyone but the younger females whom you should "take" as your own.

Or, if you are New Testament that rich people suck arse. The prosperity gospel is a rather... troublesome view of the faith.

The Earth formed billions of years ago. Life, formed remarkably soon after. We have, very slowly, and with a lot of extinction level events, gotten to the stage that we are the extinction level event. Sounds terrible?

Yeah, modern plants wiped out the vast majority of the thriving biosphere when they showed up because, as it turns out, oxygen is toxic. So plants have us beat. And the very early Synapsids wiped out a ton of species by being better than them. Before an extinction level event put the Sauropsids in the driver's seat. And then, Mammals, the inheritors of the Syn bloodline put their thang down. Though the Terror Birds did put in a good fight for a while.

God has given us an ethos that we should strive to live up to. He didn't just toss us out there 6,000 years ago and given that you aren't stupid, I suspect you know that. But you don't want to admit it.

To whom much is given, much is expected. Which means recognizing we are, after all, just another species on this planet and that God has given us the solemn obligation to not screw this up.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:25 pm to
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I'll be off until at least Monday, but think about this, please: how can you be a Christian and not believe Christ's words (aka the Bible)?


The bible is just a group of books chosen by the Romans centuries after Jesus was murdered.

Much of which was written by Saul years after.

In what way was that his word?
Posted by BuckI
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:19 am to
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God is the alpha and omega, which is to say the beginning and the end as there is no such thing as time.

Without God there is nothing because there is nothing to perceive reality otherwise. There is no understanding, there would be no free will, we would be no different than any other machine.

It's that part of God within that allows reality to exist for us.

If a tree falls in a forest, any nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound? Contrary to popular belief, the answer is NO. Science will say yes because the sound waves created will exist, but actual sound is just how we perceive those waves. Without something there to perceive it, there is no sound, there is nothing.
Well said, man. This may be the wisest thing I have ever read on this forum.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:40 am to
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Older animals teaching their offspring is incredibly common

Over the past few years I've started to come around to the idea of epigenetic inheritance — essentially that your body "remembers" past experiences passed down through modifications to the DNA or other genetic markers.
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Överkalix is nestled along a fishhook-bend in the Kalix River, in the northernmost county of Sweden.

The hardy independence of the men and women who settled Överkalix was a necessity, given the fragility of their existence. They kept livestock and fished for salmon, but the quality of their lives hung each year on whether the harvest provided enough barley and rye to get them and their animals through a six-month winter during which the Sun would merely peek above the horizon before retreating into hiding.

Making do was the theme of life in Överkalix, because every generation faced its own failed harvests, and a failed harvest meant a long winter of hard famine.

The boom/bust crop cycles were regular enough and so diligently recorded that [researchers] were able to reconstruct the nutrition available to generations of Överkalix families. Not only were there centuries worth of birth, death, and agricultural records, but the people living in the remote terrain of Överkalix had remained genetically isolated for centuries.

Among the 1905 birth cohort, those who were grandsons of Överkalix boys who had experienced a “feast” season when they were just pre-puberty—a time when sperm cells are maturing—died on average six years earlier than the grandsons of Överkalix boys who had been exposed to a famine season, and often of diabetes. When a statistical model controlled for socioeconomic factors, the difference in lifespan became 32 years, all dependent simply on whether a boy’s grandfather had experienced one single season of starvation or gluttony just before puberty. It appeared that Överkalix grandfathers were somehow passing down brief but important childhood experiences to their grandsons. The longevity findings in Överkalix were so consistent and pronounced that [they] and two colleagues began submitting them to scientific journals.

How an 1836 Famine Altered the Genes of Children Born Decades Later (Gizmodo)

The idea is that somehow during a severe famine for example, the effects are so profound that they are literally imprinted in some way around the DNA, and offspring are able to "remember" them. In this case, their decedents' bodies prepare for a feast or famine that never arrives (in modern day), and the corresponding adjustment of metabolism affects lifespan either negatively or positively.

In other words, if your body is still enabling you to survive the Irish Potato Famine, you may have a tendency towards obesity during normal times.

All of this is still theoretical of course.
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