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re: Sex Abuse scandal rocks Southern Baptist church, hundreds abused
Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:28 pm to KSGamecock
Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:28 pm to KSGamecock
Just pay Chris to go after him. Might make him stop offering favors on twitter for a few hours
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:30 pm to thatguy45
he looks like a fat gay Frodo 
This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:30 pm to thatguy45
You know Chris blocked me and because I never actually interacted with him I'm sort of salty about it. Now I'm on the hunt for another short, obese, inept, lolcow and I think I found one. I'm going to earn this block and wear it like a badge of honor.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:30 pm to thatguy45
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Seems nowhere is really a decent place, as bad people always find their way in and up in the system.
Since KSGamecock gets a kick out of this I will give my opinion on this from an esoteric perspective.
One of the things that makes me most upset about these sorts of stories from the various churches of the world is often times you will hear stories from nuns or deacons who say, "anywhere there is a large amount of 'good' concentrated in one place like a church there is also a large amount of 'bad' to balance things out."
These people know this sort of stuff happens and instead of raising holy hell about it and dealing with these people, they make excuses like the above. Which is absolutely ridiculous. It's gotten to the point where these people hold the top positions within the church!
At that point the problem becomes to volatile to expose. Exposure means people lose any trust in the organization and what you end up with is an unspoken form of extortion.
Somewhere along the line certain people have realized that if they want to escape justice in this world (they'll get their justice later), all they have to do is make their crimes so heinous that people cannot possibly expose it without running the risk of destroying the entire organization.
You see the same shite in politics especially, and Hollywood, but there is nobody on Earth worse, IMO, than someone who uses the word of God to lure victims.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:31 pm to thatguy45
That's him. I'm gonna make him my bitch.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:34 pm to KSGamecock
Do it. Wouldn't surprise me if hes the kinda person that does a bad job of shaving his head over mean tweets and then posts pics online before sperging
This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:36 pm to BoarEd
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You see the same shite in politics especially, and Hollywood, but there is nobody on Earth worse, IMO, than someone who uses the word of God to lure victims.
Its really sad that people get in and will utterly destroy organizations for their own gain. Some people have absolutely run their churches' names through the dirt. Doesn't help with attendance to church.
But as was mentioned earlier, the responses more than anything from the organizations themselves are really inadequate.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 5:41 pm to thatguy45
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You can read it or you can not.
If some spaces make the difference for you copy it into a word processor and press enter a few times.
I don't care, up to you
Well, that's fine. I simply won't read it. If you can't be bothered to show a tiny bit of consideration to other posters, that is on you.
I'll let you know when I have the time or inclination to edit a post you have made so that it can be easily read.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 5:53 pm to A Lite
dude Im just screwing with you, hard not to after the thread where people called you KSG's alter. Honestly Im surprised you just requested some spaces instead of a tl;dr, so I applaud you for that I cleaned it up a bit so if you want to read it you can, if you don't then don't. The wall of text was a bit bad so it needed it regardless.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 6:16 pm to thatguy45
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dude Im just screwing with you, hard not to after the thread where people called you KSG's alter. Honestly Im surprised you just requested some spaces instead of a tl;dr, so I applaud you for that
I cleaned it up a bit so if you want to read it you can, if you don't then don't. The wall of text was a bit bad so it needed it regardless.
Thanks. That was thoughtful of you to go back and do that.
But, unfortunately, I can't read it just out of principle now. There was too much fuss made out of it so, to stay true to myself, I have to not read it.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 6:36 pm to KSGamecock
White people!
Posted on 2/10/19 at 7:04 pm to KSGamecock
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The Catholic Church is highly organized and sought to protect its reputation and institutional integrity above all, as a result it covered up and didn't address the issue.
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The SBC is the opposite, completely unorganized, no checks or qualifications, local churches can hire whoever they want. No quality assurance. It's a mess in a different way.
The first is very true. The second statement is somewhat true. I have never been in or even known of a SBC church where an illegal act was covered up. They get reported (maybe not as much 50 years ago, but definitely over the time period in the article), and pedophiles rarely escape conviction.
The chief complaint seems to be that the pedophiles can just go work at another church, which is largely untrue. The SBC is just an association. It doesn't control any churches, and can't transfer clergy, but most churches do background checks, and pedophiles aren't exactly hireable.
Screening membership is an altogether different problem though. I don't know of any open membership group that does background checks on members, but maybe a blacklist of those convicted isn't a terrible idea.
This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 2/10/19 at 7:56 pm to Evolved Simian
Fair enough. My appraisal was from the article and what I’ve seen from the outside looking in. I think you may be misinterpreting what I said or I exaggerated too much but when viewing the SBC vs. the RCC the SBC is unorganized and that’s on purpose. When it comes to dealing with a major scandal or abuse being organized can be a blessing if you use it correctly. The RCC did not.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 7:18 am to KSGamecock
As a member of a SBC, we must have background checks before being involved with youth. Had a situation like this and it was handled promptly and person was told not to come back and turned over to authorities.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 7:58 am to KSGamecock
I read that article yesterday, and the one thing that stuck out to me was the the SBC organization can reprimand an individual church for recognizing gay marriage, yet they claim individual church autonomy is sex abuse cases. Says a lot about the Southern Baptist Church, IMO.
The other thing that struck me is the pic of almost exclusively white men.
The other thing that struck me is the pic of almost exclusively white men.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 8:37 am to The Spleen
Religion as a whole is such a stain on mankind. Simply a way to control others. And no, I’m not an atheist. But as someone who grew up in the Deep South Baptist type church, as well as a “Step-Catholic” as I say, it’s all so fricking disgusting.
I know of a SBC Sunday school teacher who hopped around from church to church. Many knew he had a thing for little girls. It became a huge issue for some, less of an issue for many more, because ya know. Reasons. They simply “can’t believe it”. This was SBC, extremely wealthy community. Pathetic group of people.
Oh and as opposed to reporting him, they just removed him from the church, and didn’t communicate with anyone what they knew, allowing him to continue his ways at other churches. Who wants that kind of bad press, ya know? It took someone doing their own digging and hiring a PI. This individual is no longer a member of his church, as he realized just how many people were aware yet said absolutely nothing.
I won’t comment on the stories my step brother has from his catholic private school. Pretty self explanatory. He was never abused personally but others were, dating back to the 60s and as most recent as 2016-ish.
I’m done with all of it.
I know of a SBC Sunday school teacher who hopped around from church to church. Many knew he had a thing for little girls. It became a huge issue for some, less of an issue for many more, because ya know. Reasons. They simply “can’t believe it”. This was SBC, extremely wealthy community. Pathetic group of people.
Oh and as opposed to reporting him, they just removed him from the church, and didn’t communicate with anyone what they knew, allowing him to continue his ways at other churches. Who wants that kind of bad press, ya know? It took someone doing their own digging and hiring a PI. This individual is no longer a member of his church, as he realized just how many people were aware yet said absolutely nothing.
I won’t comment on the stories my step brother has from his catholic private school. Pretty self explanatory. He was never abused personally but others were, dating back to the 60s and as most recent as 2016-ish.
I’m done with all of it.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:01 am
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:29 am to thatguy45
Don't trust anyone that tries to use fear to influence you, whether it be in politics, faith, or investing. Be wary of those in power and hold them to a high standard.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:49 am to cas4t
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Religion as a whole is such a stain on mankind
It's the underpinning of almost every horrible manmade event in human history. Wars, slavery, colonialism, oppression, etc. Christopher Hitchens's book God Is Not Great is a pretty good look into that aspect.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:54 am to The Spleen
I'll have to check that book out. I'm all out on organized religion. I can be spiritual in my on right.
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