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re: NY Covid-19 Deaths
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:58 pm to TacoNash
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:58 pm to TacoNash
You're obviously a lot smarter than me. Explain the numbers below.
State Covid-19 Deaths
NY - 17,671 Total
NJ - 4,202
MA - 1,706
PA - 1,112
CA - 1,178
MI - 2,391
IL - 1,290
FL - 806
LA - 1,328
TX - 495
GA - 733
CT - 1,127
MD - 516
WA - 634
IN - 569
OH - 471
Next 15 States Combined 18,558 - Total
State Covid-19 Deaths
NY - 17,671 Total
NJ - 4,202
MA - 1,706
PA - 1,112
CA - 1,178
MI - 2,391
IL - 1,290
FL - 806
LA - 1,328
TX - 495
GA - 733
CT - 1,127
MD - 516
WA - 634
IN - 569
OH - 471
Next 15 States Combined 18,558 - Total
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 2:34 pm to Cobb Dawg
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:03 pm to TacoNash
Not sure of the point. My opinion all along is that the state of NY is inflating their number of deaths due to Covid-19. You didn’t respond to my numbers. Tell me how it’s possible that NY claims about the same number of Covid-19 deaths as the next 15 states combined.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:08 pm to Cobb Dawg
Well I was hoping it would help you with understanding the correlation of Total test provided to Total test confirmed to Total deaths. We haven't even begun to discuss other factors such as density, state response time, means of transportation (subway system) and inbound international flight numbers.
But lets not pretend the burden of proof is on me. Could you please provide evidence of any kind that New York is lying about the death toll from Covid-19.
However, if you wish for me to take you approach it's quite simple. I believe the majority of all other states are intentionally suppressing the number of positive covid-19 cases and death so that the state Governor can save face and re-open their state in hopes of reducing the negative economically impact that the shutdown is having. They want this so they can get re-elected and have no qualms with killing a few people to get what they want. See how does NY have such a high death toll bot the other state do not.
Could you also provide a link to the taxes you were talking bout. I am seriously curious as I do quite a bit of business in New York and have never come across this tax burden you speak of.
But lets not pretend the burden of proof is on me. Could you please provide evidence of any kind that New York is lying about the death toll from Covid-19.
However, if you wish for me to take you approach it's quite simple. I believe the majority of all other states are intentionally suppressing the number of positive covid-19 cases and death so that the state Governor can save face and re-open their state in hopes of reducing the negative economically impact that the shutdown is having. They want this so they can get re-elected and have no qualms with killing a few people to get what they want. See how does NY have such a high death toll bot the other state do not.
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State Covid-19 Deaths NY - 17,671 Total NJ - 4,202 MA - 1,706 PA - 1,112 CA - 1,178 MI - 2,391 IL - 1,290 FL - 806 LA - 1,328 TX - 495 GA - 733 CT - 1,127 MD - 516 WA - 634 IN - 569 OH - 471 Next 15 States Combined 18,558 - Total
Could you also provide a link to the taxes you were talking bout. I am seriously curious as I do quite a bit of business in New York and have never come across this tax burden you speak of.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:15 pm to Cobb Dawg
I don’t think NY is lying
It’s mostly in NYC and most of it very bad areas (one neighborhood that was crushed ironically is Corona Queens) where majority of the population are poorer work blue collar jobs where they need to travel via subway etc
And can’t afford to call in sick and obviously don’t have a work from home function
It’s mostly in NYC and most of it very bad areas (one neighborhood that was crushed ironically is Corona Queens) where majority of the population are poorer work blue collar jobs where they need to travel via subway etc
And can’t afford to call in sick and obviously don’t have a work from home function
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:58 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Maybe Italy is lying. I mean how do you explain the numbers between Italy and New Zealand. Or maybe only places like Lombardy are lying so they can also get all that Italian gov't money to preform infrastructure upgrades.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:09 pm to TacoNash
You tend to ramble to avoid a direct answer. Explain, precisely, how NY could have about the same number of Covid-19 DEATHS as the next 15 highest states COMBINED. The other states have cities including LA, Chicago, Boston, Dallas, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Houston, San Francisco, Indianapolis, Miami, Tampa, Orlando & New Orleans.
If you don’t know how NYC taxes business from outside the city which do business in the city, I highly doubt you a) travel there to do business, or b) own your business.
If you don’t know how NYC taxes business from outside the city which do business in the city, I highly doubt you a) travel there to do business, or b) own your business.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:24 pm to Cobb Dawg
quote:Well thats easy to explain. 8,398,748 people distributed over about 302.6 square miles most of which depend on mass transit during an airborne illness.
Not sure of the point. My opinion all along is that the state of NY is inflating their number of deaths due to Covid-19. You didn’t respond to my numbers. Tell me how it’s possible that NY claims about the same number of Covid-19 deaths as the next 15 states combined.
In revising its totals NY is simply following the guidelines from the CDC updated April 2nd to include all Pneumonia related deaths
"Pneumonia deaths are included in the provisional counts because deaths due to COVID-19 may be
misclassified as pneumonia deaths in the absence of positive test results, and pneumonia may appear
on death certificates as a comorbid condition. Thus, increases in pneumonia deaths may be an
indicator of excess COVID-19-related mortality."
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 5:06 pm to Cobb Dawg
This isn't complicated. Literally read the post above this one. However we have provided evidence to support our claims. Could you please provide anything at all that supports your claims of inflated death number and/or super disaster area tin foil conspiracy.
When did I say I traveled to New York City for business and how does knowing another States/cities taxes qualify me to own or not own a business? For the third time, could you provide a link to the taxes you are referencing? Or should I just assume this, like everything else you have stated, is just shite you are throwing against the wall?
When did I say I traveled to New York City for business and how does knowing another States/cities taxes qualify me to own or not own a business? For the third time, could you provide a link to the taxes you are referencing? Or should I just assume this, like everything else you have stated, is just shite you are throwing against the wall?
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 6:12 pm to Cobb Dawg
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You tend to ramble to avoid a direct answer. Explain, precisely, how NY could have about the same number of Covid-19 DEATHS as the next 15 highest states COMBINED. The other states have cities including LA, Chicago, Boston, Dallas, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Houston, San Francisco, Indianapolis, Miami, Tampa, Orlando & New Orleans.
Most of the deaths are in NYC. Unlike those other states, NYC is not as drivable or walkable and public transportation is much more used
Posted on 4/20/20 at 6:38 pm to LouisvilleKat
You telling me that more people in NY take public transit than all of the other 15 states combined?
Somebody's numbers are wrong. Way wrong. It's either NY or many, many of the other states.
BTW, NJ is the most densely populated state in the US. DC is the most populated non-state. NY is 9th on the list in regards to population density.
Somebody's numbers are wrong. Way wrong. It's either NY or many, many of the other states.
BTW, NJ is the most densely populated state in the US. DC is the most populated non-state. NY is 9th on the list in regards to population density.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 6:51 pm to Cobb Dawg
quote:Considering most states dont even have a Subway system.. yes.
You telling me that more people in NY take public transit than all of the other 15 states combined?
And btw it's not even close.
State and Federal Funding for Mass Transit
Posted on 4/20/20 at 6:54 pm to Cobb Dawg
quote:
You telling me that more people in NY take public transit than all of the other 15 states combined?
Yes
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:03 pm to LouisvilleKat
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Considering most states dont even have a Subway system.. yes.
Practically all of the cities that I mentioned have rail systems but, if not, they certainly have mass transit. I have no idea what state and federal funding for mass transit has to do with anything.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:13 pm to AlaCowboy
Just like every other Democratic cause, facts don't really matter. They felt like those extra 3,000 deaths belonged in the Chinese Flu total, so they added them.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:45 pm to Cobb Dawg
quote:Its a good indicator of scale and use unless you believe they're just funding empty buses, subway cars and trains for no reason.
Practically all of the cities that I mentioned have rail systems but, if not, they certainly have mass transit. I have no idea what state and federal funding for mass transit has to do with anything.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:50 pm to Cobb Dawg
But if you dont want to accept funding as a measure here's a handy dandy ridership chart.
List of United States Rapid Transit by Ridership
List of United States Rapid Transit by Ridership
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:45 pm to Cobb Dawg
Over 2 billion people ride the subway in a year
Throw in NJT, LIRR and Metro North (the other 3 Main rails that bring workers into NYC) it’s even more than that.
Using the link posted by Kat, I’d say those numbers add up to more than all those cities combined
Throw in NJT, LIRR and Metro North (the other 3 Main rails that bring workers into NYC) it’s even more than that.
Using the link posted by Kat, I’d say those numbers add up to more than all those cities combined
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:49 pm to Cobb Dawg
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BTW, NJ is the most densely populated state in the US. DC is the most populated non-state. NY is 9th on the list in regards to population density.
NYC has the majority of the deaths, over 10k of them.
NYC is the most densely populated city in the country and considering most of deaths are coming from poor blue collar areas, it’s not all that shocking.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:51 pm to Cobb Dawg
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