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re: Is there anything funnier than a gun control advocate who doesnt know guns?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:42 pm to 5thTiger
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:42 pm to 5thTiger
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Its a freaking expression! Not an exclusive classification! There are specific semi-auto Ak's that are legal, but the full-auto versions have largely been banned. Should have clarified since you are picking at the tiniest details.
I pick at the tiniest details on guns because the tiniest details are often the difference between legal and 15 years in federal prison.
This rifle is legal in New York:
This rifle is not:
Why? Where are the "common sense" laws anti-gunners love to tout?
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:51 pm to bbvdd
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Not true. Missouri doesn't allow self loading weapons with a capacity of more than 11 rounds.
But Missouri also doesn't allow buckshot.
Without referencing anything, I can fairly certainly say that I am correct in this case about ak47's being illegal for game hunting.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:51 pm to bbvdd
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Not true. Missouri doesn't allow self loading weapons with a capacity of more than 11 rounds. But Missouri also doesn't allow buckshot.
Mississippi is the last free state.. Anyone can carry, anything but full auto is legal, liquor is lightly taxed, weed is decriminalized, no smog laws, I COULD GO ON ALL DAY
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:53 pm to Hardy_Har
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Mississippi is the last free state.. Anyone can carry, anything but full auto is legal, liquor is lightly taxed, weed is decriminalized, no smog laws, I COULD GO ON ALL DAY
..but Missouri does have you beat on alcohol laws 
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:56 pm to 5thTiger
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but Missouri does have you beat on alcohol laws
How so? I bet liquor is cheaper here..
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:56 pm to 5thTiger
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Without referencing anything, I can fairly certainly say that I am correct in this case about ak47's being illegal for game hunting.
He just told you otherwise. An AK47 with a 10 round magazine would be perfect legal.
ETA: And background checks are already required to purchase a firearm. What else would you propose to further regulate gun owernship?
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:03 pm to 5thTiger
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Without referencing anything, I can fairly certainly say that I am correct in this case about ak47's being illegal for game hunting
And you would be wrong.
An AK47 with a 10 round magazine or less is perfectly legal in Missouri.
Here's the link
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Prohibited Methods
Self-loading firearms with capacity of more than 11 cartridges in magazine and chamber combined
Ammunition propelling more than one projectile at a single discharge (such as buckshot)
Full hard metal case projectiles
Fully automatic firearms
Any sighting device that casts a beam of light on the game
Electronic calls or electronically activated calls
Night vision equipment
Use of bait
Use of dogs
Additional methods may be prohibited by local ordinances.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:07 pm to Hardy_Har
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How so? I bet liquor is cheaper here..
No open container laws, no silly liquor store to buy liquor, can purchase booze any time, anywhere. Not sure on tax, but definitely less laws.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:10 pm to 5thTiger
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No open container laws, no silly liquor store to buy liquor, can purchase booze any time, anywhere. Not sure on tax, but definitely less laws.
Open container is gay you got us there.. The Liquor store isn't as locally regulated as some states, so that's no real problem to me.
Liquor is obscenely cheap here though. It's cheap enough to bootleg for profit into Alabama. No shite..
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
Not sure if it's been posted but nothing will ever top the shoulder thing that goes up video
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:28 pm to bbvdd
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Prohibited Methods
Self-loading firearms with capacity of more than 11 cartridges in magazine and chamber combined
Legally this would be easy to debunk. But good on you for making the effort.
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And background checks are already required to purchase a firearm. What else would you propose to further regulate gun owernship?
Eh, backround checks aren't that strenuous currently. Mental health evaluations are one of the biggest things for me. From there, working on amending current laws to be enforce more effectively.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:31 pm to 5thTiger
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Legally this would be easy to debunk.
What in the hell does that mean? You still haven't provided any more common sense gun control ideas besides backgorund checks?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:36 pm to stevengtiger
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What in the hell does that mean?
It means any prosecutor with a brain can make it seem like you used an illegal form of ammunition. Throw in conservation people who would absolutely crush you as "expert witnesses."
I propose things that might actually be plausible. Why propose things that would be shot down? (Just realized how punny this was)
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:41 pm to 5thTiger
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illegal form of ammunition.
Has nothing to do with the firearm, which is what we are discussing but I'll forget it.
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I propose things that might actually be plausible. Why propose things that would be shot down?
If you have any good ideas, I would be the first one to listen. I may comment and you may not agree with my comments but at least you would be saying something instead of dodging the question.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:44 pm to Hardy_Har
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It's cheap enough to bootleg for profit into Alabama
Alabama is retarded when it comes to alcohol. I'll never forget paying nearly $30 for a pint of Woodford...
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:51 pm to stevengtiger
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If you have any good ideas, I would be the first one to listen. I may comment and you may not agree with my comments but at least you would be saying something instead of dodging the question.
This will rustle some people...but Mental health evaluations that are thorough. Talking written, verbal, psychological tests. If a psychologist deems you unfit, you are not permitted to own any guns. Can appeal, but if 2nd comes to same conclusion, you are sore out of luck. Repeat every 4-5 years.
Amped up penalties for illegal possession.
Ban on military style weapons.
Just a few things there.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 2:04 pm to 5thTiger
At least you brought something to the table to discuss.
If you don't have to take a mental health evaluation to drive a car, purchase alcohol or fly on a plane, then you should not have to in order to purchase something that you are allowed to constitutionally.
The laws for illegal possession are already pretty strict especially if you are a convicted felon or have a gun on you while committing a crime.
What by your definition are "military style" weapons? Your AK47 reference earlier was pretty laughable. Please explain yourself more thoroughly if you want anyone to take you seriously with that. Not trying to rude either.
If you don't have to take a mental health evaluation to drive a car, purchase alcohol or fly on a plane, then you should not have to in order to purchase something that you are allowed to constitutionally.
The laws for illegal possession are already pretty strict especially if you are a convicted felon or have a gun on you while committing a crime.
What by your definition are "military style" weapons? Your AK47 reference earlier was pretty laughable. Please explain yourself more thoroughly if you want anyone to take you seriously with that. Not trying to rude either.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 2:05 pm to 5thTiger
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This will rustle some people...but Mental health evaluations that are thorough. Talking written, verbal, psychological tests. If a psychologist deems you unfit, you are not permitted to own any guns. Can appeal, but if 2nd comes to same conclusion, you are sore out of luck. Repeat every 4-5 years.
I'm not sure I trust anyone that advocates mental health screening to exercise any constitutionally protected right.
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Amped up penalties for illegal possession.
Far too vague.
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Ban on military style weapons.
Cool.
this is now illegal
along with this
and this
and this, too
Posted on 4/7/15 at 2:07 pm to 5thTiger
And you still have not answered my question from above.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 2:11 pm to stevengtiger
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What by your definition are "military style" weapons?
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