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Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:13 pm to MoarKilometers
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:13 pm to MoarKilometers
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I'd go with lying to insurance agents
There's nothing Patriotic about fraud sir.
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:25 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Lolita Express
I don't want to speculate, as someone who has been falsely accused in the past unless there's a conviction (there has been one, just not on the Clintons) I'm skeptical from the onset. But I just read that they've collected over 650,000 emails from the device.
There's gonna be some shite worth indicting her over, I guarantee it.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:28 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I'd go with lying to insurance agents
There's nothing Patriotic about fraud sir.
People generally tend to think that they're in the same circles, because insurance regularly fricks people.
However, there is a difference as taxes are actually a mandatory facet of society; insurance is not.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:31 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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However, there is a difference as taxes are actually a mandatory facet of society; insurance is not.
Well, under the ACA.........
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:35 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:28 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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However, there is a difference as taxes are actually a mandatory facet of society; insurance is not.
there are numerous examples where insurance is mandatory. You may not have to have it in Mexico (i'm not familiar with the regulatory landscape) but in the US a business is required either by law or by contract to carry multiple forms of insurance.
not to mention auto liability is mandatory for every US citizen
eta I'm actually fairly certain you are still going to need Worker's Compensation in Mexico if you have more than 5 employees.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:37 pm to cas4t
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there are numerous examples where insurance is mandatory.
Not at the individual level. A business =/= an individual unless you take the Supreme Court's bullshite decision.
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You may not have to have it in Mexico (i'm not familiar with the regulatory landscape) but in the US a business is required either by law or by contract to carry multiple forms of insurance.
You don't have to do dick in Mexico. the only mandatory insurance is that of extortion. If you're a giant company or even a legit establishment maybe, but plenty of dudes get away without it.
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not to mention auto liability is mandatory for every US citizen
Driving a car is not mandatory.
Edit: It'd be like forcing people without cars to also buy car insurance. Mandatory means for everyone, like what the ACA wants.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:38 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I wasn't under the impression we were only discussing individuals since the initial post simply said "lying to insurance agents".
that's a shame. Worker's Comp should be a requirement.
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You don't have to do dick in Mexico. the only mandatory insurance is that of extortion. If you're a giant company or even a legit establishment maybe, but plenty of dudes get away without it.
that's a shame. Worker's Comp should be a requirement.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:41 pm to cas4t
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I wasn't under the impression we were only discussing individuals since the initial post simply said "lying to insurance agents".
Not all people own a business.
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that's a shame. Worker's Comp should be a requirement.
The minimum wage is 2.50 dollars a day. This isn't a country who espouses rights for anyone other than White Collar.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:43 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Mandatory means for everyone.
I mean, no it doesn't.
I also looked into Mexico and apparently WC insurance is provided through SS (the government) including Employers Liability. So that's good. The workers have some help with medical payments in the event they are injured. And if they file suit, the government pays for that claim as well if there is a judgement.
Interesting.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:45 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I see you edited
I never said so. The point is that there are numerous examples where insurance is mandatory. This is not up for debate.
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Not all people own a business.
I never said so. The point is that there are numerous examples where insurance is mandatory. This is not up for debate.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:47 pm to cas4t
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Mandatory means for everyone.
I mean, no it doesn't
Within the parameters, yes it does. It means that you must do something.
As in: If you own a business (personal decision), then you must have it.
We're getting way too deep into semantics and defintions but: You could live your whole life without ever having, or being obligated to have insurance -- period.
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I also looked into Mexico and apparently WC insurance is provided through SS (the government) including Employers Liability. So that's good. The workers have some help with medical payments in the event they are injured. And if they file suit, the government pays for that claim as well if there is a judgement.
Interesting.
Yeah, there's a lot of shite online that acts like Mexico actually has some semblance of law and regulations but they don't exist. I walk by the SS office every day and they just cleared out a two year sit-in protest for people who wanted to collect for work time injuries.
Oh yeah and the government killing teachers in Oaxaca.
There are rules, no one is mandated to follow them.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:49 pm to cas4t
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The point is that there are numerous examples where insurance is mandatory. This is not up for debate.
Only if you take a decision to have it mandated -- as in owning a business, owning a car. These are personal decisions, being mandated to insurance is like the ACA -- insurance with no personal decision taken.
Again, we're going to go into this really stupid rabbit hole where we're just trying to frame the argument in different ways.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:52 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
owning a business is a facet of society. You said
if you own a business you have to buy insurance.
I understand your point, but it was a blanket statement. That certainly doesn't apply to all circumstances.
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However, there is a difference as taxes are actually a mandatory facet of society; insurance is not.
if you own a business you have to buy insurance.
I understand your point, but it was a blanket statement. That certainly doesn't apply to all circumstances.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:55 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Only if you take a decision to have it mandated -- as in owning a business, owning a car. These are personal decisions, being mandated to insurance is like the ACA -- insurance with no personal decision taken.
well by this logic one could go their entire life without paying taxes, technically.
you don't have to earn income to pay taxes. You don't have to buy things to pay sales tax. etc
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:57 pm to cas4t
Yes, to exist in a society, it is mandatory to pay taxes or face punishment.
Taxes are a mandatory facet of society.
A business is not, you are not mandated to own a business.
Taxes are a mandatory facet of society.
A business is not, you are not mandated to own a business.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:59 pm to cas4t
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well by this logic
Yeah, stop there.
You couldn't be a part of society without buying anything. Do you honestly think there's a person living in America who has never purchased a single product?
Again, I don't want to venture down this autistic rabbit hole where nothing comes from this other than frustration and semantics.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You couldn't be a part of society without buying anything.
technically you could. It's highly unlikely, but you could.
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Again, I don't want to venture down this autistic rabbit hole where nothing comes from this other than frustration and semantics.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:41 pm to cas4t
Wikileaks tweeting about Clinton pedophilia connection
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:51 pm to Vols&Shaft83
gimme the deets please sir
my phone wifi at work is dog shite for some reason
my phone wifi at work is dog shite for some reason
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