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Evolution at work.

Posted on 2/6/18 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26178 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 6:08 pm
We have an interesting example of evolution apparently going bonkers at the moment. There is a new species of crayfish that can clone itself.

LINK

There was an unusual mutation in a very usual species of crayfish (the crayfish come from Georgia but the mutation appears to have happened in Germany where they are kept as pets). Which is how evolution works. Evolution is random mutations, 99.99999% of which don't work.

This particular mutation, read the article for the details, basically means that every one of this new species is female... and that all of her eggs are automatically fertile and reproduce a new female... whose eggs are fertile.

One pet owner in Germany (what person keeps crayfish as pets?) had this unusual mutation occur and suddenly he had crayfish coming out of his ears. He gave the mutants to fellow crayfish collectors and eventually someone dumped the things into a lake since they were replicating like mad.

Surprise! It turns out they do just fine in the wild.

The Marble Crayfish, as this new species is called... and it has undergone speciation since it is no longer fertile with its parent breed... is spreading like wildfire in areas it has been introduced in.

Scientist say that in the short term its a remarkable biological adaption... but its doomed in the long run. Every crayfish of this species shares the exact same genes so should a disease arise that affects them... there will be no genetic variation to protect the species.

To go back to an earlier thread... the United States was settled comparatively easily by Europeans because the native population had diddly doo da exposure to the new and wonderful germs we brought over. Which caused something like 90% of their population to die off in a fairly short period of time. The ten percent that survived are those whose genetic variance allowed them to survive the diseases.

We see this in diseases today. Something like 15% of Northern Europeans are effectively immune to the AIDS virus and there is a growing population in Africa who share that immunity. Which is not to say you shouldn't practice safe sex folks. When in doubt, wrap it before you pack it.

Evolution does not care if you are a "better" species or not. It just happens. A given species, by sheer dumb luck, might evolve to be perfect for its niche and thrive for hundreds of thousands of years. Only to have something change its suddenly obsolete.

A few million years ago Alligators evolved to do just fine in their niche. They almost died out thanks to humans but with that pressure being relieved they are back to eating folk's pets. And Crocodilian species have evolved greatly over the eons.

If you remember the amazing race horse Secretariat it is believed that due to a mutation passed on from the race horse Eclipse he had a heart which was larger then normal horses but functioned perfectly (confirmed in the necropsy of his body). Compared to other horses he was... to use the phrase... "a tremendous machine".

A mutation does not care if it is beneficial or not. It does not care if it provides a short term or a long term benefit... or detriment. Evolution is that room full of monkeys hitting random keys on a typewriter often enough to produce the entire works of Shakespeare.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 6:12 pm to
Feminists are wetting their panties at the thought of duplicating this mutation in women.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 6:28 pm to
The species is predicted to last for only about 100,000 years. Asexual reproduction doesn't promote resitance to diseases or predators. If a disease evolves to attack one of the crayfish, all are susceptible and the species goes bust.

This remarkable mutation has given us a unique opportunity to observe evolution in action. To think the specimens that mated in Germany came from a body of water in Georgia is incredible. If they hadn't been captured and sold to an aquarium enthusiast in Germany, Georgia and the Southeast could be over-run with the all-female species.
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 9:17 pm
Posted by sawfiddle
New Hope, Alabama
Member since Aug 2008
5713 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 7:08 pm to
That's all well and good..... But does this hybrid feminazi/mogwai mudbug taste good in a berl?
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 8:56 pm to
such idiotic nonsense
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 9:26 pm to
Still delicious. Cook up some gumbo!

The dutch have had crayfish in their canals for years. Came over in containerships that called in the US gulf. Got into the bildges and discharged at Rotterdam. The dutch dont like to eat crayfish for some reason. Need to learn because the suckers are errwhere.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26178 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

The species is predicted to last for only about 100,000 years. Asexual reproduction doesn't promote resitance to diseases or predators


Exactly, a short term benefit... and a big one... but in the long term they are doomed as a species. There just won't be enough genetic variance to allow this new species to survive.

We are getting a very rare chance to see a major evolutionary shift occurring within our lifetime for a given species. One that will ultimately fail yes, but this is the history of life on our planet played out in fast forward for us.

A mutation has given a temporary advantage to one species. In time that advantage will see a change in its environment and then the species will fail.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26178 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

Still delicious. Cook up some gumbo!


Good Lord yes, and evidently they are decent sized as well so you can get a pretty good meal off a few of those suckers.

They are attracted to light and can be harvested by hand. Will we see Europe become the center for a new Gumbo revolution?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 9:37 pm to
I look for the marbled crayfish to be brought to the US soon for farming. It breeds extremely fast and its quality can be easily controlled because every crayfish is identical to all others.

It hasn't been cultivated as a food source yet so it may grow larger under optimum conditions. I think its a stroke of natural luck for those who savor the flavor.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

A mutation has given a temporary advantage to one species.


I'm looking forward to details about the mutation that took place. I know that either the sperm or egg of one crayfish maintained the complete chromosomes of the donating specimen and were fertilized by another with a half-chromosome set, but the biologists don't yet know how this is resulting in asexual reproduction.

Fascinating.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
49608 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 6:49 am to
Germans
Posted by ColdDuck
BR via da Parish
Member since Sep 2006
2898 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:56 am to
Crawfish.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44845 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:07 am to
This may be the southerner in me talking but the only real question I have is "so how do they taste?"
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44845 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:10 am to
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Crawfish


Crawdad.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68160 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 6:10 am to
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Feminists are wetting their panties at the thought of duplicating this mutation in women

Until men tell them to go frick themselves
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:27 am to
And then they do. Be careful what you wish for. This is the 21st century after all.
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