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Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:30 pm to thatguy45
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Not peacefully I would think. That's why theyre all dead. When one of those pricks comes out and eats your cows, youre bound to go after the thing.
Yep. People are pretty clever. I guess the guy who slays the dragon becomes king.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:31 pm to thatguy45
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So you think its this?
Absolutely. I think that link has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:32 pm to BoarEd
Using the Bible as a primary science text is like looking to Bill Clinton or Donald Trump for examples of martial fidelity. If you are going to guess that we had dinosaurs still running around based on the Bible then we should probably also talk about God mooning Moses which, yes, is in the Bible though the various versions of it have tried to clean it up a bit...
Look it up if you want to. Thankfully God just mooned him and didn't twerk but God evidently has a juvenile sense of humor. Also God evidently has some serious junk in His trunk since Moses passed out upon viewing it.
I digress however, to answer your question of did man and dinosaur coexist... absolutely. We still live with them today. In fact I just got finished feeding a vile example of one. My mom's African Grey Parrot. Evil little turd that he is. When you eat a chicken sandwich for lunch today... you are eating a dinosaur. Modern science acknowledges birds being Theropod dinosaurs.
Chickens are more genetically similar to a T. Rex then the T. Rex is to many dinosaur species.
Look it up if you want to. Thankfully God just mooned him and didn't twerk but God evidently has a juvenile sense of humor. Also God evidently has some serious junk in His trunk since Moses passed out upon viewing it.
I digress however, to answer your question of did man and dinosaur coexist... absolutely. We still live with them today. In fact I just got finished feeding a vile example of one. My mom's African Grey Parrot. Evil little turd that he is. When you eat a chicken sandwich for lunch today... you are eating a dinosaur. Modern science acknowledges birds being Theropod dinosaurs.
Chickens are more genetically similar to a T. Rex then the T. Rex is to many dinosaur species.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:35 pm to Arksulli
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God mooning Moses
All's it refers to is moses can see the back half of him, not the front because of the whole "too heavenly and divine for man" aspect
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Chickens are more genetically similar to a T. Rex then the T. Rex is to many dinosaur species.
This one I've never understood. How do you go from being king of the dinosaurs (unless youre one of those that likes the Spinosaurus) to being a chicken
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:36 pm to thatguy45
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All's it refers to is moses can see the back half of him, not the front because of the whole "too heavenly and divine for man" aspect
That was the part that was cleaned up in later versions, the original Hebrew specifies it was the booty. God mooned him.
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As to T. Rex to chicken thing... T. Rex evolved from small bodied Tyrannosaurids that were not much larger then a modern chicken. Its a question of filling an evolutionary niche. For a long time evolution selected (though its actually a random process) for bigger is better which is how we got the T. Rex. The environment radically changed and suddenly being smaller and needing a lot less food was what was in.
Think of it as the T. Rex being related to the chicken, second cousins if you will. The chicken didn't come directly from the T. Rex, but from one of the thousands of theropod dinosaur species.
If you really want to have some nightmares a bit of gene editing proved it is entirely possible to create chicken with teeth.
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:36 pm to Arksulli
As I said, I didn't intend for this to turn into a biblical debate. But yes, there are many references to dragons in the Bible. Among many other sources. Every culture in the world has stories about them.
Think about that for a moment. People separated by thousands of miles of water, who had no contact with one another, were telling the same stories about dragons...Or terrible lizards.
The veracity of the Bible withstanding, it is a piece of evidence in the fact that it is corroborated by many, many other sources.
Which is the point of the thread. Not the Bible talk. Which I took care to point out in the OP.
Think about that for a moment. People separated by thousands of miles of water, who had no contact with one another, were telling the same stories about dragons...Or terrible lizards.
The veracity of the Bible withstanding, it is a piece of evidence in the fact that it is corroborated by many, many other sources.
Which is the point of the thread. Not the Bible talk. Which I took care to point out in the OP.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:37 pm to Arksulli
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That was the part that was cleaned up in later versions, the original Hebrew specifies it was the booty. God mooned him.
Well it says hind parts, I don't think it means he just pulled his pants down and mooned him
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:13 pm to thatguy45
Slee-staks and dinosaurs coexisted for sure
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:14 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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How do we know the noises they make?
Well, I'm not a paleontologist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
They would look at things like lung capacity and size/shape of nasal passages to determine the sorts of sounds they made. I'm sure they get it close.
I remember reading long ago that velociraptors may have had a full-fledged language they spoke with one another. They also hunted in packs. Talk about a nightmare.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 2:17 pm to BoarEd
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Well, I'm not a paleontologist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last nigh
By that standard I'm a helicopter pilot
Posted on 1/22/19 at 2:28 pm to BoarEd
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Well, I'm not a paleontologist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
They would look at things like lung capacity and size/shape of nasal passages to determine the sorts of sounds they made. I'm sure they get it close.
I remember reading long ago that velociraptors may have had a full-fledged language they spoke with one another. They also hunted in packs. Talk about a nightmare.
Didn't it also come out recently that Raptors may have not been that big?
Like the size of Turkeys?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 2:35 pm to I Bleed Garnet
I think most were the size of a small dog.
The one in the photo I was talking about in the OP wasn't 4' long. I thought better of that but didn't edit it. It was more like 2.5' long. Most of it was its tail, but it looked just like any other upright raptor.
The one in the photo I was talking about in the OP wasn't 4' long. I thought better of that but didn't edit it. It was more like 2.5' long. Most of it was its tail, but it looked just like any other upright raptor.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:47 pm to BoarEd
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:24 pm to BoarEd
BoarEd. I don’t remember where it was. I think out west somewhere. There is an area where lots of fossils have been found. In that same area there are dinosaur footprints along side human fossilized footprints. The place is roped off to keep heavy foot traffic from wearing it down. It’s an eye opener. Makes you really wonder.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:28 pm to TheUSC
I remember a story like this out of somewhere in Texas I think. The prints were found on a river bank somewhere. Some sort of raptors prints and then right next to them in the same strata were human footprints. And if I remember correctly the human was wearing sandals too.
Interesting stuff
Interesting stuff
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:30 pm to BoarEd
Yep. That’s the one. It’s pretty badass.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:31 pm to BoarEd
So, if there is evidence supporting dinosaurs and man being on the planet at the same time, why do scientists tend to argue that a meteorite wiped the dinos out, then we appeared? Not saying they wouldn't do something like that, just curious as to your thoughts why
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:35 pm to thatguy45
I have no clue. But the footprints really make you think. Carbon dating shows the footprints to be millions of years old.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:10 pm to thatguy45
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So, if there is evidence supporting dinosaurs and man being on the planet at the same time, why do scientists tend to argue that a meteorite wiped the dinos out, then we appeared?
Well, I'm sure a meteorite did wipe most of them out, but I think they'll eventually come to discover that many of these things did survive on into modern times.
I mean, I only gave a tiny fraction of the evidences in the OP.
The way I see it is we either coexisted with some of these animals, or we were tapping some genetic memory of a time when they did roam the Earth. Either scenario is fascinating IMO.
But my money is on the idea that some of these animals survived. Hell, to this day there are rumors of a large raptor that still roams the Congo.
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