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Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:23 pm to Japowell98
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:23 pm to Japowell98
Then that sucks for you
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:23 pm to LSUNV
Nbamatiger, the guy I was replying too when you replied to me seemed to imply that marriage is a church issue. Maybe he would like it to be but in this country it is a secular and legal one.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:24 pm to KSGamecock
Also, I say 
to all catholic ancestors for the spanish inquisition and the crusades
to all catholic ancestors for the spanish inquisition and the crusadesPosted on 5/11/14 at 11:24 pm to Patton
I don't care. Apologize dammit. 
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:26 pm to Japowell98
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So what happens if you're catholic and gay and want to get married at a church?
First off, Catholicism is not governed by the federal government so you would have to ask the Church for approval same as everyone else. If they say no, what do you expect us to do, go to Rome and Blow up the Vatican.
Exactly my point, if the Catholic Church doesn't except it then find another religion that does. Pretty Simple
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:27 pm to DCRebel
Please copy and paste from your links.
Nothing in your links comes close. 5 - 10 years does not constitute recorded history.
6,000 years > 10 - 20 years
Nothing in your links comes close. 5 - 10 years does not constitute recorded history.
6,000 years > 10 - 20 years
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:31 pm to KSGamecock
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Maybe he would like it to be
Not at all, just stated that to be a member in good standing with the church it is approved by the church. Somehow it became about law.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:32 pm to NbamaTiger90
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Please copy and paste from your links.
How about this link:
LINK
There's even a cool map! Check it out!
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5 - 10 years does not constitute recorded history.
So you're moving the goalposts now? What does recorded history have to do with your question? You asked for civilized nations which condone homosexual marriage; I named a few. Why is my answer somehow inadequate?
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6,000 years > 10 - 20 years
Okay, and?
Why are you choosing 6,000 years as your benchmark?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:32 pm to NbamaTiger90
LINK
Therefore, it was allowed before 342 C.E.
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Same-sex marriage was outlawed on December 16, 342 AD [in Rome]
Therefore, it was allowed before 342 C.E.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:33 pm to LSUNV
I'm not talking about you. I took issue with what you said because I thought you were agreeing with Bamatiger's point. I have no issue with anything you've said thus far by itself,
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:34 pm to KSGamecock
Oh, Sorry 
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:35 pm to Japowell98
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Therefore, it was allowed before 342 C.E.
If you'll read a bit about that, historians are unclear why it was outlawed. There's really no evidence it was practiced seriously.
From your link:
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but the exact intent of the law and its relation to social practice is unclear, as only a few examples of same-sex marriage in that culture exist.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:36 pm to NbamaTiger90
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6,000 years
If you want an "exact" number, the world (according to the torah, which I believe isn't entirely a historical refrence, but more of a philosophical one) is 5774 years old. There was no civilized nation until at least a thousand years after though
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:39 pm to the808bass
So few marriages = it didn't happen?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:39 pm to the808bass
double post again 
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:40 pm to Japowell98
Why does it matter if there's religious evidence or justification for it? Why are we approaching this from a religious angle at all?
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:41 pm to KSGamecock
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Why are we approaching this from a religious angle at all?
Because BamaTiger brought it up and I got a little butt hurt
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:44 pm to Japowell98
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So few marriages = it didn't happen?
The few were 1) an emperor marrying a boy (most likely a forced wedding) and 2) a child emperor marrying a man.
If you'd like to use those as your normative experiences of gay weddings, have at it.
And Nero married a donkey, so I guess we have historical precedence for that, too, if we just need one data point.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:46 pm to KSGamecock
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Why does it matter if there's religious evidence or justification for it? Why are we approaching this from a religious angle at all?
I think Bamatiger is pointing out that Christianity is far from the only religion which has a prohibition on homosexuality. Not sure why that would matter to a bunch of godless heathens. But it's largely accurate so it's better than a lot of shite posted here which passes for fact.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:48 pm to the808bass
ot, but how did you celebrate your ten thousandth post?
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