re: Nightly Art Bell Coast 2 Coast AM & Mogray Tool Update Thread...

Socal, I'm still chewing on this.. so interesting. I've been learning a little about dna change, and these different levels of consciousness and I'm sure it's all tied into this 46 + 2 idea.. I just don't know enough to know what I really think.

I need more time to really tell you how I feel.

The song itself is really good. Whats funny is this (along with other Tool songs) have been staples of warmups in my playing days... I had no idea that there was meaning to them, let alone meaning that aligned to my beliefs. So incredible.

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I saw Tool with RATM out here back in 1999, at a festival called Coachella. I'm sure you've heard of it if you play. Wow, what a weekend that was. Just lots of way, way, way off the grid discussions going on when 100,000 people are camping out and hitting the psychedelics.

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Haha, yeah I've heard of Coachella (and by playing I meant a sport, but I do hack the acoustic nightly). I'm a Bonnaroo vet, been 4 times. I didn't go this year because I was kind of tired of the struggle with the heat and felt like I'm outgrowing the big festival scene, and it turned out to be the best weather year of all time for 'roo...

I only played football in h.s through my sophomore year. I moved for hockey my junior year and played through college and a couple years after. Beer league hero now.

Hockey has crazy weird leagues. My bro-in-law was a hockey player at UWiskey. We got drunk one night and he tried to explain all the club leagues/semi-pro stuff. frickin confusing. I thought it was like baseball, as far as league hierarchy, turns out its not.

Makes no sense to me, but the game itself is fantastic.

Check out Opiate, it's an early EP, but you can see where tool was headed. Especially with the title track.

Opiate

Yeah hockey is really weird with the set up.

Did he play at UW? The Badgers?

I get annoyed when I hear kids around here say they play Division 1 at Lindenwood. But really it is just Division 1 club, which is below NCAA Division 3.

And the pro leagues are a total mess to explain. Baseball is a completely different model, I'd explain it but I don't think you care enough to read the long explanations it would take. The fact you can be drafted and owned by an NHL team and still go to college is different than other sports, and every country in Europe has multiple levels of pro which usually pay more than low level American pro. I have friends in Italy, Germany, Netherlands, and France right now because they make way more than if they played here.

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This is the dude I was thinking of. I told kills in a thread way back a few months ago that there was a Missouri guy in Tool, thought it was the bassist though.

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I think he's from Kansas but yeah

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Lol. UW-lacrosse club. I thought the same thing. "Wow, you played for the Badgers" should've been more concise. He played with some NHL guys though, which just confuses me. I played American Legion baseball, against guys like Mark Burhle, but we were in HS. He was playing against drafted guys in club level, makes no sense.

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If he played club at UW-Lacrosse there is negative 1,000 chance he played with anyone that played in the NHL. Not sure he was being totally honest with you. UNLESS he meant he played against some when he was a kid (which is possible), but there has never been anyone make the NHL that played club. And I'd bet my unimpressive bank account no club player has even played minor pro. (It's just extended h.s).

Legion ball is legit, I'm sure there is an impressive list of alumni from this area. I have no idea how baseball works with club levels though. I was done with that by the time all that came around.

I know Pujols played legion ball in the KC area.

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I'll have to ask him, he's not a sketchy dude, but it seemed like it may have been more on the level you're talking about with the youth hockey stuff. Like I said, I was drunk when he tried to break it down. We were basically comparing pro athletes we'd faced. Lol.

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Ask him about the serial killer there... It would even spook us halfway across the state.

Almost every year someone (usually a male athlete) was killed in the river. It's some big mystery.

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Hmmm, he told me about the problem with drunk kids getting drunk, then walking out into the cold, getting confused, and either falling in thin ice or freezing to death. Nothing about a serial killer, I'll ask him next time I see him.

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Yeah ask him, that was apart of the mystery.. because the river is apparently well off the path from bars to where people live... a lot of things don't make any sense with the deaths.

The myth was it was a female and she'd drug her victim and lead them to the river and drown them. One guy from our team was from that area and he would tell us about it. They went as far as putting cameras up in the area where there is access to the river.