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re: Haith faces NCAA notice of allegations

Posted on 1/21/13 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 4:54 pm to
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I bet he's the kind of guy that likes to watch his wife get double teamed, but that's neither here nor there.


That's frickin hilarious.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 5:43 pm to
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I bet he's the kind of guy that likes to watch his wife get double teamed

Alden is actually a decent guy. He's a businessman, no question, and a micromanager, and works his staff into the ground. But, I've never heard a whiff of him being unfaithful to his wife, or not being a great dad. He's a good person.

He's also done some great things at Mizzou. Our facilities are miles ahead of where they were when he came in, and we would certainly not be in the SEC without him.

As far as Haith goes, we have to let this play out, see what his notice says. If it is, in fact, a show cause notice, they should move to make Fuller the HC immediately. IMO, of course.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 5:55 pm to
Semo....always bringing sanity back to this insane place known as the rant.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 6:00 pm to


I just laughed because it was a pretty outrageous thing to say.

I actually like Alden.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 6:01 pm to
Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer!

I have worked with Alden, and he's actually a good guy. He's a businessman, focused on the bottom dollar, and that sometimes turns people off. But he's not slimy - at least no more than any other AD. Just focused on running his business and on the image of his department.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 6:16 pm to
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Alden is actually a decent guy. He's a businessman, no question, and a micromanager, and works his staff into the ground. But, I've never heard a whiff of him being unfaithful to his wife, or not being a great dad. He's a good person.

He's also done some great things at Mizzou. Our facilities are miles ahead of where they were when he came in, and we would certainly not be in the SEC without him.


I don't doubt he is a decent guy and good person.. what I said didn't elude to him being unfaithful or a bad father.

He has certainly greatly boosted the Mizzou brand in a very short time. I like what he has done for Mizzou.. which is why I said he's done great things for Mizzou in my post.

That comment is more of a knock from another angle.. I don't think you'd get it.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 6:17 pm
Posted by FightTigers
Missourah
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 7:00 pm to
Time to start over at the Mizzou Athletic Department, clean house and try again. This sucks
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 7:03 pm to
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Time to start over at the Mizzou Athletic Department, clean house and try again. This sucks


Does suck.

I'm not sure how people think firing Alden over this issue makes any sense... he could not possibly in anyway have known about Haith's wrongdoings prior to hiring him. Therefore, there is no way he should be ridiculed for this issue. If people have other problems with Alden, so be it. But you can't apply this current situation to your disgust with Alden.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 7:05 pm
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 7:16 pm to
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That comment is more of a knock from another angle.. I don't think you'd get it.

Wow, that's a somewhat condescending thing to say.

I took it as you knocking him for seeming to be slimy and of poor character in some way - which is how I would perceive someone who would engage in practices like you describe with his wife and others. If there's a different explanation, feel free to enlighten me - I feel sure I'm bright enough to grasp the concept.

I do agree with you that Alden isn't to blame for this. He didn't know Haith was facing this investigation when he hired him, and if he had let him go when it first came up the dept would have been sued. Sometimes you just have to let things play out.

Alden also could not foresee that the NCAA would decide to hit him with a show cause without any proof - just because they don't believe him. That's BS by the NCAA.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 7:27 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:16 pm to
Mogray...condescending? Nooooo....
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:23 pm to
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I took it as you knocking him for seeming to be slimy and of poor character in some way - which is how I would perceive someone who would engage in practices like you describe with his wife and others. If there's a different explanation, feel free to enlighten me - I feel sure I'm bright enough to grasp the concept


Well.. I guess all I can say is you didn't get it because you responded by saying he doesn't seem like a guy that would cheat on his wife, which isn't what I said in my comment.


Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:28 pm to
OK, I can see the misunderstanding. I was trying to say he was a man of character. I think we're in agreement on this.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:31 pm to
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I was trying to say he was a man of character. I think we're in agreement on this


Yes, he's a good man. The jab/angle was eluding to maybe being kind of a p****, but I don't like using that word to a lady. He's the kind of guy I could see getting his nails done with that clear nail polish, but yes, he is a man of good character.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:44 pm to
He might get a manicure, but I can't see him with nail polish! He's really not a sissy! Just perhaps a bit of a metrosexual.
Posted by Jed Clampett
Member since Aug 2012
91 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:01 pm to
Anyone remember when the story first broke? Seems like it wasn't too long after the hire. I believe FH knew something was brewing & kept quiet to get hired. If that is indeed the case then I am on board with the lynch mob. Run him on outta here before everything spirals completely out of control.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:26 pm to
I'm a metrosexual! What's wrong with that? We like to look good, have proper table manners, and get the trendiest hair cuts every 2-3 weeks. So what?
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5793 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 12:15 am to
ESPN on Haith
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This is truly a distraction nobody wants, but we all mostly agree that the NCAA is very inconsistent. Regardless of the ongoing process, I think we need to stay the course with Haith and ride it out. Firing him may become necessary, but not unless sanctions would be placed on Mizzou program or Haith's role as coach.
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 12:25 am
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 6:05 pm to
Does anyone think there's a chance Haith escapes this? By all accounts it's coming and if there was nothing to it, I would think a statement to that affect would be released so Haith and Mizzou aren't left swinging in the wind. Then again, the NCAA don't give 2 shites about Mizzou or Haith so maybe they would leave them swinging in the wind even though nothing's coming down the road.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 6:10 pm to
There was some talk on Tigerboard about a source in Tampa saying nothing would come of it. And this source said there were two people on the committee deciding that wanted to take this route, the rest were against it. Those two both happened to have beaker connections.

I don't know though. There's an awful lot of smoke for there to be no fire.

Regardless, if they can't prove it and hit him with a show cause anyway, just because they don't believe him? That's BS and I'd fight it if I were him.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 6:12 pm to
Follow up thought too. Assuming it's handed down, I know some have voiced what they would want to see happen, but would it be a mistake to allow Haith to finish out the year? Wouldn't we risk losing more recruits if the HC position is uncertain for next year? Wouldn't we stand a better chance, if Fuller is the man, to name him right away and let him try to keep them all locked up?
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