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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:02 pm
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:02 pm


There were a lot of different things to take away from the game Saturday, it wasn't all good, and it definitely wasn't all bad...

Positives:
This team played a 60 minute game. Dak is just a all around good guy and a beast at the football. We have a lot of young talent that will be stars. De'runnya Wilson, Josh Robinson, Ashton Shumpert (On his carries he looked damn good, hard physical running), Jameon Lewis (not young necessarily but a beast), Ross, Fred Brown on offense all show flashes of greatness. On defense it is hard to deny that we have talent, especially in the front 7. B Brown is going to be a beast IMO. Also, I think we are a good safety away from having a jam up secondary. Yeah our corners get beat occasionally but any great corner is going to take some chances and get beat sometimes, and sometimes the chances will pay off. They are mostly young, Love and Cox are the exceptions and even Cox is in his first year of D1.

Mullen is a two part topic. Some good, some bad. The good was that our offensive numbers at the end of the game were nothing short of impressive. We were playing A&M so the argument could be made that any other team and it might have been a W. But if it were any other team, their defense wouldn't have been as bad, so that is a double edged sword. The offense in the second half was what I was most impressed with. We looked like we actually made some adjustments and the offense actually picked it up in the second half opposed to trending down. Nothing but positives there.

Negatives:
The front end of the game was hard to watch, which I think was the reason people started to get chippy in the game thread. Some of us were envisioning another blowout loss and getting tired of it. The first thing that stood out to me, which several people have already pointed out was the 3rd and 4 and 4th and 1. On the 3rd and 4, we call a quarterback blast/lead over the left side. Russell's too slow to get around the corner. Not what many of us would have called with Russell in the game, but fine, put us in a manageable 4th down if we were planning on going for it anyway. (Which I applauded at the time, long field goal, can't keep punting the ball, only 1 yard to gain, go for it) Then comes the 4th down. Run up the middle with Perkins. Not sure there are many here that think that was a good play call. Maybe with Robinson or Shumpert in the game but not Perk. This is the bad side of Mullen I alluded to in the positives section. One minute he's looking like the play caller at Florida, the next he does some ridiculous shite like this.

The next negative of note is that we cannot keep squandering the defense's valiant efforts. We get a roughing the punter call after a great three and out and what does the defense turn around a do? Get a pick! Big time players make big time plays in big time situations and all that. What does the offense do with the ball? Stall after a false start or some other boneheaded penalty. Three and out. This happens time and time again, which has to be frustrating for a defense that has tried, to no avail, to carry the team this year.

The last negative I will point out, and not really an all negative point is about Nickoe. Sigh. Since day 1 Nickoe was one of my favorite players. He seemed to be that "thug", if I may, that had the attitude that our defense needed. Big time hits and big time interceptions. Hell saturday with his pick he is the active player national leader of interceptions I believe. Never has gotten into any off the field trouble that I can recall and has just gone out and played. The Achilles injury couldn't be any worse for Nickoe. Completely changed him as a player and forever changed some fans perception of him overall. To me, if he is in his first or second year that touchdown he gave up to SC would have been a pick all day. It hurts to watch him struggle out there. It hurts even more to see our coaches leave him in positions to fail it seems. I understand our safety depth has been bad, but something has to give. Let him be in on run support plays, first downs and such and move Cox back there on pure passing downs. Anything really to mix it up at this point.

Overall take:

There are positives to take from the game saturday. That is fact. There are also negatives to look at. That is fact. For those of you that refuse to see the other side opposite from your perspective are selling yourselves short IMO.

In a thread I made specifically to address the keep Mullen/ fire Mullen issue, I said it would come down to how the team played in the last five games. Blown out - fired. Play well - Keep and ride into next season. Well here we are boys. Two games down.

South Carolina - Saw some Mullen emotion, 5 turnovers, saw a little quit at the end, blow out.
Texas A&M - Saw more Mullen emotion, called out D Coord for prevent, played a full 60 minute game, Hard Fought IMO.

We will see how we play in the next three games. A lot left to see as far as our coaching decision goes, but a step in the right direction Saturday IMO.
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:05 pm to
Tl;dr
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:13 pm to
DAS A LOT
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:15 pm to
It is a lot I know. That's why I put tl;dr in the title

There's just soooo much going on with this team. At times, I want to say I want Mullen to succeed because he does good things.

The next minute I want to bash my head into a wall because of the dumb shite he does.

It really just astounds me, whats going on.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:18 pm to
quote:


This team played a 60 minute game.


Is this the same as "our offense played the end of the game for once"
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:20 pm to
I am glad we are praising our idiot coach for having his offense play an entire game. Time for a raise.
Posted by Allyn McKeen
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:21 pm to
Shumpert not only ran well, but it was his kick-out block that sprung Josh on his 51 yard TD. That left a safety to bring down Josh 1-on-1. There aren't many DB's that are bringing him down solo.

We out-gained USCe. We out-gained Texas &M. (I took away their A for that crappy playing surface.) I am not saying we should have won either game, but I have been very happy with the effort the past 2 games.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Is this the same as "our offense played the end of the game for once"


Yeah I guess it could be said the same way. However I think our defense played hard through the 4th quarter because they saw the offense actually helping them. Our secondary is our weakness, and if not for that I think we might have caught them at the end.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

I am glad we are praising our idiot coach for having his offense play an entire game. Time for a raise.



Show me where anyone is praising our "idiot" coach? I posted both positives and negatives. Positives don't mean praise.

Chill out.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

I am glad we are praising our idiot coach for having his offense play an entire game. Time for a raise.



He didn't play in the first half and refused to take perkins out but hey, hey played good in the fourth. Raise.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Chill out.


Never
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Shumpert not only ran well, but it was his kick-out block that sprung Josh on his 51 yard TD.


This +100.

quote:

(I took away their A for that crappy playing surface.)


This was unfathomable. WTF was going on with that shite?
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

He didn't play in the first half and refused to take perkins out


This is something that could have been added to the negatives. 9 carries for 72 yards or something similar and we just let him rot on the end of the bench and watch Perkins tippy toe into the line and fall down.

Fortunately Russell and Perkins will be something completely taken away from Mullen next year.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Fortunately Russell and Perkins will be something completely taken away from Mullen next year.



It's the only way to stop it
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:36 pm to
What did y'all think about Christian Holmes getting action at LB? The guy was moved to TE in the spring and has played LB for one series vs. Alcorn, I think.

Which brings me to my point, I hate phucking mass subs on defense. Why not mix and match? Why not play the ones who are performing well until they get tired?
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:41 pm to
I don't know anything anymore. Just gotta watch the game with your popcorn and one eye open. I'm just glad that I totally prepared for an arse kicking. Made the game so much more enjoyable to watch. Still didn't stop me from cursing Mullen everytime Perkins touched the ball though.
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:42 pm to
I didn't watch out defense. I just watched the Michigan Nebraska game while Manziel had the ball. Made me feel better.
Posted by LBC
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:11 pm to
I think we're all putting a little too much stock into the A&M game. All of knew there defense was horrible. I mean, fricking -Arkansas- put up 33 points on them and not counting A&M and Samford have put up 17 points a game. Not to mention they gave up 31 points to Rice and 28 to Sam Houston. If we hadn't have put up at least 35 I'd be extremely worried about our O. I liked how some of our individual players looked, but I'm not going to expect a major change from our offense based on one game.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

What did y'all think about Christian Holmes getting action at LB? The guy was moved to TE in the spring and has played LB for one series vs. Alcorn, I think.


I thought he played well given the fact that the kid is all over the place and expected to know it all. He had a big hit on JFF at one point.

quote:

Which brings me to my point, I hate phucking mass subs on defense. Why not mix and match? Why not play the ones who are performing well until they get tired?



I scream the same thing at the TV every time we do this. The 4 different DL I can understand because the trenches are different and fresh players every play can wear an OL down. Other than that though, I want to see the same 4 DBs, and same three LBs.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

I think we're all putting a little too much stock into the A&M game.


not this guy. We are still an average football team that should be better.
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 3:33 pm
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