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re: 2013 Mississippi State football recruiting/commitments thread
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:30 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:30 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Nobody uses Scout anymore FWIW Rivals and 247 have us with 4 four star recruits ESPN has us with 5 Scout also has Chris Jones as a 2 star which shows how bad they are at evaluating talent.
It seems that y'all use whatever service ranks you higher. Last year when scout had quay #2 DT in nation that seemed to be the popular service. Same with the year before when they had Dee and PJ as 4's.
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Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:31 pm to Whereisomaha
Rivals has you at 3 four stars. Who are the other 6 that you're getting?
This post was edited on 8/6/12 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:32 pm to Whereisomaha
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It seems that y'all use whatever service ranks you higher.
247 seems to generally be the best site, and they also have a composite ranking that uses the 247 ranking. I would think that would be the best way for everyone to evaluate the rankings. Considering that and changes in the upcoming season, 9 4 stars is very possible.
This post was edited on 8/6/12 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:33 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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So you think that Shumpert is committing to Ole Miss on August 16th?
I'm saying that in the middle of August, Shumpert will have a new top 3
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:33 pm to Whereisomaha
It's Bundy. Why are you even taking him serious? When he says dumb shite, just insert a 
and move on.
and move on.Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:33 pm to Whereisomaha
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It seems that y'all use whatever service ranks you higher.
Try checking out 247's composite ranking. It takes the rankings of the players on all 4 of the networks and averages them out.
FWIW we have 4 four stars on there.
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:34 pm to Tds & Beer
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It seems that y'all use whatever service ranks you higher. 247 seems to generally be the best site, and they also have a composite ranking that uses the 247 ranking. I would think that would be the best way for everyone to evaluate the rankings.
I agree. I was just making a point. Scout is the worst when it comes to offers. I think Rivals is the best talent evals but they're too giving with 3 stars. I do like 247
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:34 pm to Tds & Beer
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composite ranking that uses the 247 ranking
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I would think that would be the best way for everyone to evaluate the rankings.
Easily the best option IMO. I wish everyone would start going by that so everyone would be on the same page.
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:35 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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FWIW we have 4 four stars on there.
And I bet this is the one you go with
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:36 pm to Tds & Beer
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I wanna know when Rumph is visiting and why no one has them on their want list.
HUGE want... Just no one thinking there is much chance of us getting him. USCe is rolling out the red carpet for him. He was born and lives basically in the shadow of Williams-Brice.
Would be similar to Gabe Myles having grade concerns out of HS and going off to JUCO. You'd think we'd have an excellent chance of getting him then...
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:38 pm to 17theBears
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It's Bundy. Why are you even taking him serious? When he says dumb shite, just insert a and move on.
So you dont think we can end up with 9 four star recruits??? Give me a break. The numbers are there as well as the recruits we lead for.
There aint no way Ole Miss can have a big enough turnaround to cause our committed recruits to drop us for them.
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:42 pm to 17theBears
24/7 and 24/7 composite FTW...
Thought it was best/most thorough last year as well even though we weren't as highly rated as Scout. Alot of actual evaluations going on in that network. Scout is doing almost all evals based on video highlights for us. Too large of margin for error there, IMO.
Well known that Scout ends up rating State players higher and Rivals ends up rating OM players higher. Has been that way for quite a few years...
Thought it was best/most thorough last year as well even though we weren't as highly rated as Scout. Alot of actual evaluations going on in that network. Scout is doing almost all evals based on video highlights for us. Too large of margin for error there, IMO.
Well known that Scout ends up rating State players higher and Rivals ends up rating OM players higher. Has been that way for quite a few years...
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:43 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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There aint no way Ole Miss can have a big enough turnaround to cause our committed recruits to drop us for them.
I'm still waiting on the list of this 9 players. And you don't think we could end up with Kailo? That's the only player we could possibly flip from y'all.
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:44 pm to engie
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HUGE want... Just no one thinking there is much chance of us getting him. USCe is rolling out the red carpet for him. He was born and lives basically in the shadow of Williams-Brice. Would be similar to Gabe Myles having grade concerns out of HS and going off to JUCO. You'd think we'd have an excellent chance of getting him then...
Yancy continues to say y'all are doing the best job crootin him
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:45 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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There aint no way Ole Miss can have a big enough turnaround to cause our committed recruits to drop us for them.
Yeah, that's never happened before. At least not in the last 4 years.
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:49 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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There aint no way Ole Miss can have a big enough turnaround to cause our committed recruits to drop us for them.
Putting way too much emphasis in on-field results IMO... That's selling them short, and has shown in the past to not directly correlate to recruiting(I agree that it does somewhat).
The bigger holes they have to fill, the more they can sell that(and immediate PT) in recruiting. It's a give and take scenario. For some kids, immediate PT may be more important than immediate success, especially if Freeze can sell them on having future success (which he will if they do any better this year).
We need the situation in Oxford to remain hopeless. That's going to be difficult if they win even 4 games this year and are competitive in others...
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:53 pm to engie
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The bigger holes they have to fill, the more they can sell that(and immediate PT) in recruiting. It's a give and take scenario. For some kids, immediate PT may be more important than immediate success, especially if Freeze can sell them on having future success (which he will if they do any better this year).
Shumpert and Kailo are the only players state is recruiting that we could offer more playing time than state could. In an interview with freshman for fall camp,they asked them if it mattered if they RS or not, they replied with, " I want to play, but coach Freeze told us from the begginning that, if he could have it his way, then he'd RS all of us, but our team is thin at some positions and we may have to play" Freeze isnt promising everyone they will run wild rebel or start for four years, he's being honest.
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:53 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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There aint no way Ole Miss can have a big enough turnaround to cause our committed recruits to drop us for them.
Crazier things have happened.
I think we end up with 6-8 four stars and could easily be 9.
1. Moore
2. Mix
3. Sandberg
4. Woods
5. Cox
6. Smith
7. Shump
8. Thomas
I don't think we get Billings, and we may not get Shump IMO.
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:54 pm to Whereisomaha
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Freeze isnt promising everyone they will run wild rebel or start for four years,
shite. That worked pretty well at one point.
Posted on 8/6/12 at 1:56 pm to 17theBears
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I don't think we get Billings, and we may not get Shump IMO.
And I guess you are giving us zero chance of landing Tony Connor.
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