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Posted on 11/2/19 at 6:44 pm
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 6:44 pm
At the minimum 2 elite recruiters in staff.

A better oline in any way possible jucos, transfers, better recruiting, whatever.

Bench Dean and Delance.

An upgrade over Grantham, it’s like he doesn’t know what to do if his blitz isn’t working and our guys just look confused when they are asked to play zone.

Facility upgrades goddamit.

Better bagmen.

Sign 2 qb recruits a cycle and let em all battle it out. May the best man win and let the other frick boys transfer.

Having said all that I think UF is just an above average oline away from being elite.

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 6:48 pm to
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Bench Dean


What's going on with him? I thought he was going to be a great player this year.
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 6:50 pm to
It just look he doesn’t have a feel with how to run with a receiver in man and it looks he sits in the wrong spot in zone.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 6:51 pm to
Honestly, I don't think Grantham's major problems are because of his blitzing.

It's his lack of blitzing.

In several games I've noticed that he's starting to pull Muschamp types of defenses -- go into zone, hope that your rush gets to them in time before the QB can figure out who is where.

The problem is that it simply does not work vs. great passers like Fromm, Burrow, Lock (all guys who tore us apart).

There were several times he should have brought a slot-CB, maybe use some exotic looking plays and maybe even bring a short-side DB on the blitz instead of the safety. The point is to get their so fast that the QB simply does not have the time to pick and choose.

If Grantham blitzed like a madman I would be much happier than this just wait until the offense gets into the Red Zone and hope they can't figure it out.

Our offense can move the ball, and it actually helps if the opposing offense goes down the field quickly and kicks field goals.

In the end:

On offense: Realize our limitations. Kyle can't run it and we have no inside rushing threat. All of our best plays are on outside runs.

Stop. Calling. Long. Passes.

Trask is very, very good at reading defenses pre-snap and we have so many mismatches. These long-developing passes almost always get him in trouble and he usually only has one out -- his RB.

If we want to open the game up, we have to start having a drag route very close to the LOS just in case someone is spying our RB.

On defense:

Start blitzing. That's it. And not cute blitzes, just get them way to the outside and force the tackle to pick one or the other. Take Greenard but let the LB/DB go or take the DB and let Greenard go.

No more soft coverage. Play man every single down. Our DBs are way too good in coverage to be letting them get off the line immediately with almost no contact.

Really bizarre playcalling on defense.

HC:

Learn time management and fully embrace our Gator Raid passing offense. Start to use shorter routes, more complicated plays (double drag, those screens were working).

Clock management was a big one, though. It's almost like he didn't want to score too quickly -- there was no hustle in the team whatsoever.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 6:52 pm to
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What's going on with him? I thought he was going to be a great player this year.




Dean is an outside Corner. He doesn't have the STAR potential. Need to try someone else at the position. Dean will likely move outside next year or to Safety.
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:00 pm to
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we have to start having a drag route very close to the LOS just in case someone is spying our RB.


I will never understand why Toney doesn’t run these, it’s only bubble screens and jet sweeps with him. He is entering the Andre Debose wasted talent category.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:16 pm to
It just makes no sense how we use him. The worst part is it almost always invites too much contact -- use him on a drag route, maybe he gets open, maybe he goes wild, who knows? If we never use him like a receiver, they will never treat him like a receiver which completely destroys the entire purpose of him being on the field:

To draw attention. Teams have to know where he is and it gets them to stop playing disciplined football.

Well at least he'll be back next year.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:25 pm to
Dean is playing out of position.

Either play him at safety or play him at CB2 sliding Marco to the slot.

Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 8:09 pm to
Sorry to say this as long as smart is at UGA Mullen may never win that game.

Also maybe we need a different off week every year it's the week before UGA ( doesn't seem to help us at all)maybe we need it the week after the LSWHO game instead
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 8:20 pm to
We win more than we lose when we have a week off. Heard that on the radio today.

Mullen needs a running QB.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 8:21 pm to
This is easily the most retarded thing you've said in the past year.

We lost by a Touchdown and had a lot of unlucky breaks, which seems to be a recurring theme with Georgia as long as they are an SEC Money Printing machine.

In the end, Mullen absolutely needs his style of Quarterback. As good as Trask is playing, Mullen is a power-spread guy, not an Air Raid type.

As soon as we can fix the running game (which is likely going to take until next year) we will be absolutely fine and I look forward to giving Smart fits with a dual-threat QB.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 8:23 pm to
It doesn’t do any good to sign 2 QBs if they sit on the bench . I think you will get your wish in this class . Franks and Jones will Transfer at the end of the season and we will jus have Trask.

We need a better OL and a dual threat QB . Mullen’s offenses always seem better with a dual threat QB.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 8:33 pm to
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It doesn’t do any good to sign 2 QBs if they sit on the bench . I think you will get your wish in this class . Franks and Jones will Transfer at the end of the season and we will jus have Trask.

We need a better OL and a dual threat QB . Mullen’s offenses always seem better with a dual threat QB.


Let them go. Emory isn't ready and anyone who has watched him understands that he is still way behind on throwing -- asking him to basically run it 15 times a game is a recipe for another ankle flipped around.

In the end, we knew this fix was going to take more than one year to make. This year it is imperative we have someone who can actually throw the ball because running risks injury a lot more than throwing does.

Next year even, we should stick with Trask and wait until we have enough bodies to actually run the offense the way Mullen wants to. Rushing it could be absolutely disastrous.

If we win ten games this year and decide to risk losing Trask (Franks is already out, trust me) then we're stuck with two running Quarterbacks who can't pass nearly as well -- and if we have another shitty showing from our running game guess what?

We're right back to where we were a year ago -- teams just loading the box, daring us to throw, stuffing our run game and likely beating us.
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
2247 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 8:35 pm to
Fix the running game next year straws that is the just stupidity you will never fix the running game with this O-line they are just not run blockers I thought as the year went on they would get better I think it has gotten worse delance,heggie, and Forsythe are all juniors and Buchanan the only senior if those young guys can not beat these guys out we are going to have the exact same problem next year so be ready for the 6:40 hurry up offense next year also
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 8:45 pm to
I mean, if it were up to me I'd patently just change the entire offense from head to toe.

Literally go air raid, but use our receivers better. They're big, they're strong, spread the ball out. We have so many vertical passes and long developing routes when the vast majority of our cash is made by shorter passes -- even with Franks it worked like a charm in a few games.

I would pretty much line up 4 receivers every single down out wide and use motion, an occasional jet-sweep (much more than fricking one like this game) and a lot of dragging patterns.

That would literally be my offense until 2021 when we have Emory Jones, AR15 and Del Rio -- because one of them is 100% going to get hurt. It just comes with the territory of an offense that has running Quarterbacks.

We have to hold our noses and accept that a pass first offense is our near future, period. More than anyone it needs to be Mullen.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12739 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 9:27 pm to
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If we win ten games this year and decide to risk losing Trask (Franks is already out, trust me) then we're stuck with two running Quarterbacks who can't pass nearly as well -- and if we have another shitty showing from our running game guess what?


I would take my chances . We have no chance of winning the conference title or playoff with Trask at QB . Maybe 10-2 is good enough to make you happy but I want championship. Why go into a season knowing you can’t even win the conference championship and your QB is a SR? Maybe we have become Georgia where that is good enough.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54005 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 9:43 pm to
Trask has been the best QB we’ve had since Tebow and you have bitched non stop about it.
This post was edited on 11/2/19 at 9:44 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 9:43 pm to
Uh, we could actually win it this year.

Georgia lost to South Carolina at home. It's very possible they lose to Auburn and Texas A&M.

Throwing Emory into games and making him run into stacked boxes is just fricking stupid. We have a top ten Quarterback right now, how hard is that to understand?
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 9:45 pm to
What’s your infatuation with Emory? He isn’t even good at running the ball
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 9:54 pm to
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What’s your infatuation with Emory? He isn’t even good at running the ball


Seriously.

Trask has:

Broken Chris Leak's completion record.
First QB since 2009 to throw for two touchdowns vs. Georgia.
First QB to throw for 300+ yards vs. LSU since 2001.
Top ten in Total QBR.
Completion % is the highest of any Gator QB ever.*

(Last one I only went back to 1990 and only major starting QBs, not trick passes or the like).

The dude is a goddamn stud, and it's a bit of a shame that Mullen still hasn't built this offense around him quite yet.
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