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re: So, Scott Frost played QB during his teams practice for Navy...
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:57 pm to TJGator1215
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:57 pm to TJGator1215
You guys pumping up Frost with exactly 20 games as a head coach in the easiest conference in CFB. 
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:05 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Let's go Frost!!!!!!
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:31 pm to finchmeister08
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i don't know what'd i do if he didn't turn out great. especially after us talking him up so much before he even got here.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/23/16501428/scott-frost-ucf-coach-offense
He talks about adapting, and...
I've seen him literally run the QB on the scout team, he loves the option. He has one of the most adaptable offenses around.
He's passionate.
He's involved.
He's a real leader, clean record, offensive success everywhere he goes.
McElwain was none of those things, and worse: He was content to just hand the keys over to Nussmeier -- I don't see the same thing happening with Frost. To any man.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:08 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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McElwain was none of those things, and worse: He was content to just hand the keys over to Nussmeier -- I don't see the same thing happening with Frost. To any man.
Frost has coached 20 games and you're so sure???? Weren't you backing Mac just 2 weeks ago?
Some of you guys are like fickle school girls. Let's see how long it'll take you to get off the Frost bandwagon.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:40 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Frost has coached 20 games and you're so sure????
You're sure talking up Kiffin -- explain why his team lost to a Navy team that UCF crushed?
I gave you a shite ton of reasons why I want him here, and what he had that McElwain didn't.
Like I said: He's energetic, he's a leader, he's clean/has integrity, he has a fun offense that's modular (can be changed for personnel) and has the #1 scoring offense in the country.
To say you'd give Kiffin, who has been fired from every job he's had outside of Tennessee (where they would have surely fired him anyway), a shot before Frost makes you look just as foolish as I did backing McElwain.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:19 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Like I said: He's energetic, he's a leader, he's clean/has integrity, he has a fun offense that's modular (can be changed for personnel) and has the #1 scoring offense in the country.
You figured this all out in 20 games? How do you know he's clean? Are you his relative? How do you know he has integrity? Do you have some examples? What does having the #1 offense playing absolutely NO ONE with a pulse have to do with tea in China? I keep asking but you won't answer. WHAT QUALITY WIN DOES HE HAVE ON HIS RESUME? Navy???
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:24 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
You know what. Let’s just keep Shannon. At least we’ll know what we’re getting.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:26 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I've seen him literally run the QB on the scout team, he loves the option. He has one of the most adaptable offenses around.
and Galen Hall was throwing me out patterns at UF in the 80's too. What the frick does that have to do with being the Head Coach of The University of Florida??? Have you ever played football? This is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. I'm not trying to be mean but are you really using this as a reason for him as a great head coach?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:34 pm to finchmeister08
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You know what. Let’s just keep Shannon. At least we’ll know what we’re getting.
Shannon is more qualified than Frost. He wasn't really given a chance at Miami. The administration did not back the program just like Strong at UT. It's hard to tell what job he could have done if given a real chance back then. He did turn Miami around academically and even more important, he kept them out of trouble. They had 1 arrest in his 4 years TOTAL. That's a miracle worker. Our next guy has got to keep UF out of the damn news.
I don't think these next few games are going to tell us much about Shannon either. It takes weeks to undo poor coaching that Mac had. I don't think we can afford taking a chance on Shannon. We need a home run. Someone that we all know will turn this program around. Shannon should be given a look to stay but that's up to the next coach. A new coach may want to clean house and that should be entirely up to them.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:36 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Like I said: He's energetic, he's a leader, he's clean/has integrity, he has a fun offense that's modular (can be changed for personnel) and has the #1 scoring offense in the country.
I said a lot more than him running QB on the scout team -- that's about his character.
1. #1 Scoring offense in the country.
2. Took a team that went 0 - 12 and may end up undefeated in his second year.
3. He's got a clean record.
4. He's from Forida, has ties to Florida.
5. Is cheaper than the alternatives.
6. He has a good coaching pedigree on where he's worked.
I mean, there are a lot of reasons to think Frost is a good fit -- surely you can do better than to frame the argument to fit one point when there are six?
What exactly does Kiffin have? He's...a good Tweeter?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:21 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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1. #1 Scoring offense in the country. and I ask you again... Who the frick have they played? You do know that Memphis is #8, SMU is #9, FAU is #15 and USF is #16. What's your point? That these shitty schools all play each other?
2. Took a team that went 0 - 12 and may end up undefeated in his second year. Do you even know why UCF went 0-12? Do you know what they did the 4 years prior? O'Leary has consistently won 10+ games a year. UCF is 7-0 right now. Why must you say they were 0-12 and then say they're undefeated as if they will be 11-0 this year? The one team on their schedule that would have kicked their arse, Ga Tech they had to cancel. The only other team on that schedule that has a pulse is USF at the end of the season. Going undefeated with this shite schedule is nothing to brag about dude.
3. He's got a clean record. What the frick does this mean? Are we hiring him to drive trucks?
4. He's from Forida, has ties to Florida. Okay, you have really humped the shark. Frost is nowhere from Florida. Are you sane? Do you really think he's from Florida? WTF? He's been in Florida less than 2 years. He was born and raised in Nebraska, he played for Nebraska, his alma mater is Nebraska. Where the hell do you think his dream job will be... Nebraska. Good God man.
5. Is cheaper than the alternatives. Now, you have really lost your mind. UF needs a proven winner, not a fricking discount.
6. He has a good coaching pedigree on where he's worked.
What coach has he produced? Did he coach someone that went on to success? I'm missing something here??? Or do you mean he was COACHED by good coaches? At least Kiffin had Orgeron on his staff.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:35 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
Well, now I don’t know who I want. We might as well disregard Frost, Norvell, Fuentes, & Taggart. They’ve either not played a P5 school or they have and lost. It looks as if Mullen, Kelly and Stoops are all that’s left. And we already know none of them are interested.
WE. ARE. frickED.
WE. ARE. frickED.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:37 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
What does Kiffin have??? Go back and look at that first season at UT. He definitely turned that team around after Fulmer was asleep at the wheel. He took 3 star talent and competed day 1. His team was competitive in most games his first year. They should have beaten Bama (the blocked kick, Cody taking off his helmet), Could have beaten Auburn, and UCLA too. He beat every team in the East but us, who was ranked #1. He blasted UGA, Vandy and USC. UT could have been 10-3 that year with a few lucky bounces. Kiffin showed in 1 year that he can coach in the SEC. This is not conjecture. He turned around a sanctioned heavy USC team as well as the Raiders. It is a fact. Nothing that you can say can change the results on the field. Kiffin has been a winner not only in the SEC but the Pac12 and the NFL.
I'm done talking about Kiffin. I'm not Kiffin's agent. I won't shed a tear if he's not our coach next year. I'm merely pointing out that Kiffin is the next up and coming Spurrier for whoever gets him. He's the same age as Frost but has MUCH more experience and has had the mistakes and been through the hard knocks that you need. His next gig is going to take a school to the next level. Watch. He is 10 times the coach Frost is at this point. I don't even know why I'm trying to compare the 2. It remains to be seen if Frost can be a consistent winner. I would not take a chance on him at UF.
I'm done talking about Kiffin. I'm not Kiffin's agent. I won't shed a tear if he's not our coach next year. I'm merely pointing out that Kiffin is the next up and coming Spurrier for whoever gets him. He's the same age as Frost but has MUCH more experience and has had the mistakes and been through the hard knocks that you need. His next gig is going to take a school to the next level. Watch. He is 10 times the coach Frost is at this point. I don't even know why I'm trying to compare the 2. It remains to be seen if Frost can be a consistent winner. I would not take a chance on him at UF.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:37 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
...Yet, Lane Kiffin, who has never been successful at any job he's been to -- outside of OC I guess, is a better fit? Who has FAU played? You're writing a bunch of nonsense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop
Lane Kiffin is working at FAU, he lost to the Buffalo Bulls.
The Buffalo Bulls are nursing a 3 - 6 season, with wins over Kiffin's FAU, Colgate and Kent State.
Kiffin couldn't beat Buffalo and they had their backup quarterback in.
As for the clean record: We're hiring a guy who can coach for a while, we want to have a coach who will be here and build something long-lasting.
Not a guy who has literally never left a job without controversy and who...
Ah...
Seems to run into HCs, ADs and Owners who hate him.
Everywhere.
All the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop
Lane Kiffin is working at FAU, he lost to the Buffalo Bulls.
The Buffalo Bulls are nursing a 3 - 6 season, with wins over Kiffin's FAU, Colgate and Kent State.
Kiffin couldn't beat Buffalo and they had their backup quarterback in.
As for the clean record: We're hiring a guy who can coach for a while, we want to have a coach who will be here and build something long-lasting.
Not a guy who has literally never left a job without controversy and who...
Ah...
Seems to run into HCs, ADs and Owners who hate him.
Everywhere.
All the time.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:49 am to finchmeister08
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We might as well disregard Frost, Norvell, Fuentes, & Taggart.
I would disregard Frost and Norvell immediately. They have had 1 gig and less than 2 years. I would have disregarded Fuentes prior to VaTech but his experience at VaTech would be enough to put him on the list but I don't think there's any chance he would come to UF but I'd call him before the up and comers. Taggart has been a head coach for 7 years. He's turned 2 teams around and is working on his 3rd. He's from Florida and knows how to recruit Florida. He's a proven coach that can win here. He should be high on the list but would he leave Oregon after a year?
There's plenty of coaches out there. That's why you search to find the best one. UF should not have to settle on anyone. Hell, keep Shannon even if we have to wait another year but I think there's a lot of proven coaches that we can get.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:42 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
1) Willie Taggart has a sub .500 coaching record
2) He's not leaving Oregon after 1 year
3) My goodness you whine a lot
2) He's not leaving Oregon after 1 year
3) My goodness you whine a lot
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:47 am to roadGator
I don't see any way UF hires someone with a sub 500 record as a head coach.
Of course, I find it equally hard to imagine them hiring a guy that will be, at best, 20-7 at the end of this year just because I don't think 2 years at UCF is enough to prove you can handle it in a P5 conference.
But we will see.
Of course, I find it equally hard to imagine them hiring a guy that will be, at best, 20-7 at the end of this year just because I don't think 2 years at UCF is enough to prove you can handle it in a P5 conference.
But we will see.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:58 am to slayerxing
I'm in for Frost and willing to take that chance on him. He's a bit of a risk. I didn't feel good about the Muschamp risk or the Mac risk. I feel good about the Frost risk.
That's just my opinion though.
It's it's not Frost I can't see who it will be.
Stoops - no
Mullet - doubt it
Kelly - I don't think so
Mullen - I don't think he wants the pressure
Fuentes - not leaving VaTech I don't believe
Norvell - not ready and don't feel good about him
Babers - I like him but is he ready
Bobo - no more UG people please
Who?
That's just my opinion though.
It's it's not Frost I can't see who it will be.
Stoops - no
Mullet - doubt it
Kelly - I don't think so
Mullen - I don't think he wants the pressure
Fuentes - not leaving VaTech I don't believe
Norvell - not ready and don't feel good about him
Babers - I like him but is he ready
Bobo - no more UG people please
Who?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:04 am to roadGator
No one. That’s who.
We
Are
fricked
Some may mention Kiffin, but I think he’s a double edged sword. Yes, he’s an offense genius, but he’s also been in the shite. Mainly his own fault. Has he learned from it? I don’t know. IMO, his twitter feed speaks volumes. He’s funny until he’s the face of the university. And if he can’t back up the shite he talks, we all look like idiots for hiring him.
We
Are
fricked
Some may mention Kiffin, but I think he’s a double edged sword. Yes, he’s an offense genius, but he’s also been in the shite. Mainly his own fault. Has he learned from it? I don’t know. IMO, his twitter feed speaks volumes. He’s funny until he’s the face of the university. And if he can’t back up the shite he talks, we all look like idiots for hiring him.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:13 am to finchmeister08
We aren't fricked. Have faith.
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