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re: So, Scott Frost played QB during his teams practice for Navy...
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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We're going to hire a coach who literally can't help but lie -- has been caught lying at every team he has been an HC at...after we fired a coach with cause for lying?
So let's address the lies. You mentioned that he's been caught lying at every team he's been at but you seem to only mention the coaches poll. Are you really going to use what the frick a HC said about a meaningless poll to call him a liar? Really? That's like someone asking you who did you vote for? It's none of their damn business who he voted for. Why the hell wouldn't he vote his team #1. Then when asked why wouldn't he then say, "we don't look like a #1 team, I wouldn't vote my team #1". Do you have a clue how his team may have gotten a big head if they found out he voted them #1. That is coaches speak. You have taken one thing and blown it out of proportion when the real blame should fall on the fake media that said it was anonymous.
What other examples are you using for lies he told? I'll wait?
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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So in two years he took a team from 0 - 12 to 11 - 1, 12 - 0.
What the hell are you smoking??? Frost was 6-7 last year at UCF. Where are you getting 11-1? Where the hell are you getting 12-0? He's currently 7-0 and in 2 years has played NO frickING BODY. This season is not over and you're already claiming him undefeated? He does not have ONE quality win on his record as a coach. Have you really looked at UCF's schedule. That is fricking embarrassing. McElwain would be undefeated with that shite. O'Leary routinely won 10+ games with in that conference. Are you really trying to sell me on a guy that hasn't played a team with a pulse? Are you really trying to say that a coach that has played just 2 P5 teams is ready for big boy football? Are you really going to risk the future of UF on a guy that's coached 20 games? Really? Why does UF have to be the place where coaches learn on the fricking job?
Kiffin may have warts but Frost doesn't even have peach fuzz on his nuts.
UF MUST hire a proven, experienced coach. One that has coached against big boy football. If they choose another 0 year, 1 year, 2 year wonder we are going to be in this same position 4/5 years from now. Mark my words.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:25 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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You mentioned that he's been caught lying at every team he's been at but you seem to only mention the coaches poll.
You didn't read my post, that's cool -- let me go over them again.
1. Oakland Raiders, the owner called him a liar and fired him with cause for lying.
2. Tennessee he lied about Meyer and the University of Florida cheating with recruiting -- got caught in the lie and publically apologized, humiliatingly, to us.
3. He lied about the coaches poll, got caught lying.
So you want to hire a coach who has been fired with cause for lying after we just fired a coach with cause for lying.
Stop. Man. Just stop.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:46 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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1. Oakland Raiders, the owner called him a liar and fired him with cause for lying. 2. Tennessee he lied about Meyer and the University of Florida cheating with recruiting -- got caught in the lie and publically apologized, humiliatingly, to us. 3. He lied about the coaches poll, got caught lying.
So you claim Kiffin is a liar because of What Al Davis said? Are you really using a power struggle spat and a messy divorce to claim one side over another? Who hasn't Al Davis fired? Who hasn't Al Davis called a liar? I think he fired people at his funeral home. Really? You use that?
Kiffin did not lie on Meyer. He claimed something he didn't know the interpretation of the rules. He called out Meyer on purpose. It was made for one reason only. To go after the top dog which was UF/Meyer. He took a shot immediately at UF. You didn't like it, I didn't like it but that does not make him a liar. Coaches do this all the time. Have you checked out the latest coaches whining about other coaches cheating in recruiting? It's front page in this forum. Try again.
Coaches poll??? Really? That's the best you have? You came up with 3 bullshite stories and that is your basis for calling the man a habitual liar? Wow? You're basing whether he could lead UF to championships on a coaches poll, a nasty divorce and him calling out UF? That's pretty pathetic.
I gave you my FACTS about Frost. He has 20 games as a HC. Not nearly enough experience for me, especially in a conference that is piss poor. We need a coach that has made mistakes. Someone that learned from the school of hard knocks, not someone that hasn't experienced adversity. Strong and Kiffin are my top choices but there's plenty of other guys as well. I just don't think this next hire should be another coach with limited experience. How many more times do we need to keep hiring guys that have never coached big boy football?
Frost is a HUGE risk. When has he or his staff coached against quality teams? NEVER. When has he or his staff have to game plan against a top QB in CFB? NEVER. When has he or his staff have to go up against 4 and 5 star talent? Absolutely NEVER. Now if he was at Vanderbilt and having Vandy winning that would be a different story. He's at fricking UCF. Come on man.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:55 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Kiffin did not lie on Meyer.
While Kiffin accused Meyer of violating NCAA rules, he incidentally violated a Southeastern Conference rule that prevented coaches from mentioning a recruit by name. Kiffin's accusations against Meyer were mistaken.[30] Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive issued a public reprimand to Kiffin because of the comment.[31] In addition to the SEC's public reprimand, Florida Athletic Director Jeremy Foley demanded a public apology from Kiffin.[32] Kiffin issued a public apology one day after making the comment. In a statement released by the University of Tennessee, Kiffin wrote, "In my enthusiasm for our recruiting class, I made some statements that were meant solely to excite those at the breakfast. If I offended anyone at the University of Florida, including Mr. Foley and Urban Meyer, I sincerely apologize. That was not my intention."[33]
Oops.
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So you claim Kiffin is a liar because of What Al Davis said?
No, I believe the arbitrator.
''Kiffin filed a grievance against the Raiders, claiming that he was fired without cause,[19] but on November 15, 2010, an arbitrator ruled that Davis did indeed have cause to fire Kiffin.''
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Coaches poll??? Really?
It's controversy, and I've had enough at Florida with a guy who humiliates himself at every turn.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:07 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
^ Not one thing you posted above confirms him being a habitual liar. You are just proving my point.
Kiffin's accusations. Accusing someone about something you don't know the interpretation is not a lie.
An arbitrator sided with Davis' right to fire Kiffin. California is an "at will" state. None of this means Kiffin is a habitual liar.
Coaches poll - do you really think Kiffin is the only biased coach that voted in that meaningless poll?
Name me a successful coach who HASN'T been accused of lying? Comes with the territory.
Kiffin's accusations. Accusing someone about something you don't know the interpretation is not a lie.
An arbitrator sided with Davis' right to fire Kiffin. California is an "at will" state. None of this means Kiffin is a habitual liar.
Coaches poll - do you really think Kiffin is the only biased coach that voted in that meaningless poll?
Name me a successful coach who HASN'T been accused of lying? Comes with the territory.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:12 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Dude, you're splitting hairs.
We're trying to build a dynasty with the next coach, someone who will be here for a while -- and we can't do it with a guy who is ''mistaken'' quite a bit. We need someone long term, and a guy who is always in some controversy or other is not the foundation to build a dynasty.
We're trying to build a dynasty with the next coach, someone who will be here for a while -- and we can't do it with a guy who is ''mistaken'' quite a bit. We need someone long term, and a guy who is always in some controversy or other is not the foundation to build a dynasty.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:33 pm to finchmeister08
“I've been recruiting all week,” Frost said last year upon taking his name out of the running at Oregon. “[One day,] I drove to a [nearby] town in Florida, recruited and was back in Orlando that night. [The next day,] I drove to another town in Florida and was back at home that night. That's a lot different than flying all over the country and sleeping in a different state every night.”
Just dropping this off. Imo he's waiting on the call.
Later
Just dropping this off. Imo he's waiting on the call.
Later
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:46 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Please name me ONE successful coach that has been coaching for 20 years and has not been accused of lying???
Kiffin and Frost are both the same age. Kiffin has been coaching big boy football for 17 years. Frost... 6 years at Oregon in a conference where defense is optional. Kiffin was learning about coaching as a child. Frost not so much. Like I said before, Frost resume is not UF Head Coach worthy. Not yet.
Kiffin and Frost are both the same age. Kiffin has been coaching big boy football for 17 years. Frost... 6 years at Oregon in a conference where defense is optional. Kiffin was learning about coaching as a child. Frost not so much. Like I said before, Frost resume is not UF Head Coach worthy. Not yet.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:58 pm to dbuchanon
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Imo he's waiting on the call.
I would be too if I could triple my salary overnight after being a head coach for less than 2 years in a ymca league.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 2:37 pm to dbuchanon
I'd love for Frost to come. Love his style of offense and dedication. 
A lot less money to pay for some of the other coaches, a great responsible personality and an offense we all want to see run at Florida.
A lot less money to pay for some of the other coaches, a great responsible personality and an offense we all want to see run at Florida.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:56 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Frost has had four top five offenses.
If you have offense, you win at UF. That simple. We have defensive studs lined up out the door in this area.
Spurrier had defensive issues for years before Stoops. He did pretty darn well.
Florida can win just scoring. Frost has the number 1 offense in the nation. Schedule or not you can't not be impressed with 50+ a game. He is still playing with comparable talent at UCF as his competition.
If you have offense, you win at UF. That simple. We have defensive studs lined up out the door in this area.
Spurrier had defensive issues for years before Stoops. He did pretty darn well.
Florida can win just scoring. Frost has the number 1 offense in the nation. Schedule or not you can't not be impressed with 50+ a game. He is still playing with comparable talent at UCF as his competition.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:42 pm to Gatorbait2008
+50. +550 a game and his team blows the doors off of everyone -- including Memphis' Norvell.
With Corral and the stable of receivers, Frost is our best decision outside of Mullen -- only because Mullen has experience in the SEC, but Frost has experience in Florida.
frick, it's an exciting time to be a Gator.
With Corral and the stable of receivers, Frost is our best decision outside of Mullen -- only because Mullen has experience in the SEC, but Frost has experience in Florida.
frick, it's an exciting time to be a Gator.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:12 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I know UCF will be on TV this week at 7pm...hope to watch. I like the idea of youth and energy....but I would hate to see to 1/3 of the fan base be skeptical of the hire from the getgo....because we all know what happens then...first L and some will howl and get their pitchforks sharpen.
We need to hire the right person who will excite Gator Nation and bring FUN & swagger back to the Swamp. Its time.
We need to hire the right person who will excite Gator Nation and bring FUN & swagger back to the Swamp. Its time.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 3:59 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
I get what you're saying but kiffin is a worse risk than frost. Kiffin is a PR nightmare not to mention the hostess thing at UT. Yes he's a great offensive mind but he's been fired twice, DGAF about anyone or anything and is already stirring shite up at FAU. Hell hes trying to get Lamar Jackson to FAU. Do we really want to risk probation or having to fire him for his conduct after a few seasons? If we wanted to hire someone proven it would be Kelly. He's got the resume but he took the blame for the OU sanctions.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:02 pm to reel_gator8
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but I would hate to see to 1/3 of the fan base be skeptical of the hire from the getgo
if they'd do their due diligence, like we're doing, and watch some UCF footage, they'd know what they could be getting.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:02 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Please name me ONE successful coach that has been coaching for 20 years and has not been accused of lying???
Kiffin and Frost are both the same age. Kiffin has been coaching big boy football for 17 years. Frost... 6 years at Oregon in a conference where defense is optional. Kiffin was learning about coaching as a child. Frost not so much. Like I said before, Frost resume is not UF Head Coach worthy. Not yet.
My problem with Kiffin is his winning percentage as a HC.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:23 pm to finchmeister08
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if they'd do their due diligence, like we're doing, and watch some UCF footage, they'd know what they could be getting.
Exactly. That offense is smooth as silk, and he seems to know what the defense is doing every play.
The defense could use some help, but at Florida defensive talent is easy to come by -- if we keep on a few defensive coaches I wouldn't be to upset.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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That offense is smooth as silk
i don't know what'd i do if he didn't turn out great. especially after us talking him up so much before he even got here.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:49 pm to finchmeister08
It would be like dating a super model, telling all your friends, bragging about how hot she is and then finding out she has a dick.
NTTAWWT
NTTAWWT
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 4:53 pm
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