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re: Same as Muschamp, time for change

Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:55 pm to
Yards are an indication of success. The more yards you get the more chances to score. That's how we beat VU. Its no surprise we have trouble scoring because we don't get lots of yards. You have to rely on turnovers when that happens and this D has gotten 0 the last 3 games.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:56 pm to
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Yards are an indication of success.


No, they're not. Wins are.

NC State had 500 yards vs. South Carolina's 250, want to know who won? You don't know dick about football, TJ.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:58 pm to
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NC State had 500 yards vs. South Carolina's 250, want to know who won? You don't know dick about football, TJ.


THIS! All this!
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:01 pm to
Again. NC State had 2 turnovers. You're finding outliers. When an offense can't move the ball, they can't score. You don't score you don't win. Dumbass.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:02 pm to
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When an offense can't move the ball, they can't score.


Still had dbl the yards. yet scored how many? Yards dont mean jack shite. Points do.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:24 pm to
Again that game was an outlier.

Btw:

Just in case you missed it:

USCw. since you brought up FSU. 23 guys out 9 for the season:

#30 in total O
#35 in scoring O
#59 in total D
#45 in scoring D.

Next excuse
Posted by dbuchanon
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:26 pm to
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USCw. since you brought up FSU. 23 guys out 9 for the season:




Are any of them their QB,RB or 2 best WRS?? if not its fricking irrelevant
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:44 pm to
Lol. I knew you'd shift the argument. Franks is the starter. Davis is better than Scarlett. WRS is on Mac.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:49 pm to
TJ, frick this bullshite man. Go to the ''what would you do'' post by Finch and tell us your gameplan outside of ''fire everyone''.

This isn't productive for anyone because you don't acknowledge anything nuanced unless it frames your argument.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:49 pm to
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I knew you'd shift the argument.


I didnt, you attempted to.. poorly. Im talking about losing key positions ala QB,RB,WRs. And you bring up other teams not missing what we re missing
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:50 pm to
Del Rio looked better then Franks in the U.K. Game and Franks was clearly better then Del Rio in the Vandy game . DelRio is shite and should never start for us again. He was a walkin at Bama for a reason . If we keep playing the way we have been then our luck will run out and we will start losing like we did against LSU.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:00 pm to
USC starters who've been out
Steven Mitchell
Pie young
Ronald Jones
Daniel Imnotagatorbaby
Deontay Burnett
Viane
Jalen Green
Chuma edoga
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:08 pm to
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USC starters who've been out


Ask SC fans what would happen if Bentley went down. Go on, TJ. I already did.

''We'd be fricked.''

You can work around other positions.

You can't work around every position outside of TE.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:13 pm to
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Ask SC fans what would happen if Bentley went down


Clemson lost their QB tonight, how'd that work out??
Oh yeah, #2 team in the country lost to Unranked Cuse
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:47 pm to
Meh... They didn't look good with their QB1. Defensively they got torched by Cuse's WR. There are better arguments to be made.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:09 am to
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Yards are an indication of success.

Well... they *can* be a measure of your offense's ability to move the ball, but not necessarily a great metric to measure "success" given that offensive success is generally measured by points on the board... Better statistic to look at might be Points Per Possession to grade overall offensive success.
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NC State had 500 yards vs. South Carolina's 250, want to know who won? You don't know dick about football, TJ.


With the previous said, you realize that's an awful example to try and make your point right? NC State lost that game on special teams and turnover margin. It had nothing to do with their offense. They more or less lost to Deebo Samuel. Finished as a one touch down game, and they allowed him to run the opening kickoff back for a TD, and then score two more on passes from Bentley. Oh, and they fumbled twice in their own territory leading directly to 14 points for SC as well.

What is it with choosing shitty examples to try and prove a point. I'm certain there are good ones out there, but this was a shitty spot to try and plant your flag if you're trying to make a point regarding offense.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:42 am to
I'm talking about SOUTHERN CAL.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:48 am to
I feel like the Georgia guy is some how more knowledgeable about our team than the posigators. That is rather sad.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:58 am to
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I feel like the Georgia guy is some how more knowledgeable about our team than the posigators. That is rather sad.


Know thine enemy.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26763 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 1:06 am to
Yea. Your enemy is quickly crumbling. So enjoy it
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