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re: 2022 Recruiting and beyond. (Updated: 20/JUN/2021)

Posted on 9/23/19 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 7:50 pm to
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I am sure being we dont play aubbie at home but every 8 to 10 years that should be a big weekend for hosting recruits not sure what the list will look like but I can guarantee it won't look like that Georgia list


I'm fine with top 15 as long as we get elite Quarterbacks. It's the only thing that I really want. Everyone else can be developed pretty well.

Win games, win the recruiting matchups. If you're expecting top 5 classes then you're expecting too much.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:32 pm to
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If you're expecting top 5 classes then you're expecting too much.




Why, you're fricking Florida for Pete's sake. You guys should be in the top 10 at minimum.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:35 pm to
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Get us an elite QB and a top 15 recruiting class and we can outperform Clemson.



Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:58 am to
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Why, you're fricking Florida for Pete's sake. You guys should be in the top 10 at minimum.


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Fan from team who suddenly becomes one of the best recruiting schools mysteriously overnight wonders why other programs can't expect top 5 recruiting classes every year.




We haven't had a top 5 recruiting class since the 2013 class. Expecting Mullen to fix a 6 year problem in two years is asking too much.

Especially when scholarships are worth more at other schools.

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Give me a top 15 recruiting class with an elite QB and we can hang with Clemson.


Yeah, the same Clemson that beat the frick out of the team that Georgia can't seem to beat ever without even having a top 10 recruiting class.

Elite QB + Elite development = championships.

Maybe Kirby'll get there in the next 30 years.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:00 am to
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Fan from team who suddenly becomes one of the best recruiting schools mysteriously overnight


Since you're bringing UGA into the equation. For years most people said UGA is a sleeping giant. That they should be recruiting above the top 5-10 classes that they annually got and now that we have someone doing that suddenly UGA is cheating their asses off. I mean, we all cheat. Even your beloved Gators who for some reason you like to think isn't paying or offering up as much as UGA. That just sounds like sour grapes man. We weren't recruiting at Ole Miss levels and then suddenly jumped up to top 5 classes bringing in 5 stars.

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We haven't had a top 5 recruiting class since the 2013 class. Expecting Mullen to fix a 6 year problem in two years is asking too much.


I'm not saying Mullen can fix it over night but to expect a school such as UF to not have top 5 classes, especially when FSU and Miami are so down doesn't seem like a stretch. It's a high profile school in the SEC. One of the Big 6 in a talent rich state. You should have top 10 classes at a minimum and top 5 classes sprinkled in.

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Yeah, the same Clemson that beat the frick out of the team that Georgia can't seem to beat ever without even having a top 10 recruiting class.


Say what?

2018- 7th with five 5*'s
2017- 16th with two 5*'s (only brought in 14 players)
2016- 11th with one 5*'s
2015- 9th with three 5*'s

That's two top 10 classes in the previous 4.

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Elite QB + Elite development = championships.



Clemson is unique. Can you name anyone else who's won a national championship in the last 20 years to follow that recipe? And what makes you think this UF staff can replicate that.

Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:21 am to
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That they should be recruiting above the top 5-10 classes that they annually got and now that we have someone doing that suddenly UGA is cheating their asses off


Dude, we saw the truck on the kids social media acc. Brand new Raptor just sitting outside hhmmm

I understand defending your team but cmon
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:31 am to
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Dude, we saw the truck on the kids social media acc. Brand new Raptor just sitting outside hhmmm

I understand defending your team but cmon




I don't know his financial situation. Is Nolan Smith's family poor? He was attending a $10,000 a year school before transferring so maybe the family has money. Maybe we did buy if for him

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:34 am to
Their program was literally flooded with money the moment Kirby was hired and suddenly he has the second best recruiting class of all time without having ever won a National Championship.

Also, Clemson's recruiting is not elite, it is good. Elite is top 5. They had no problem manhandling Alabama while Georgia still hasn't won since 2007 against them.

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Name another team that has won the National Championship without elite recruiting in the last 20 years.


Uh, Auburn? Alabama ruins the experiment because they make up more than anyone else combined.

The most bizarre thing is that Georgia fans have really told themselves that they wouldn't be surprised if Georgia was busted with recruiting violations tomorrow when the entire rest of the CFB community who isn't Alabama would have said: "I knew it."

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:47 am to
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Uh, Auburn?


Auburn is the closest you'll get but they still had a top 10 recruiting class prior to winning. And I wouldn't say that Clemson's recruiting isn't elite. They are just way more selective than most schools are and have a certain culture that they build off of. They bring in several 5 star players each year.

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Their program was literally flooded with money the moment Kirby was hired and suddenly he has the second best recruiting class of all time without having ever won a National Championship


You mean a program that hasn't had tremendous success bought into some new blood and started flooding the program with money? And that seems strange to you. Especially with some big name boosters that wanted Richt gone so they weren't donating like they could have been. We were the stingiest program in the nation.

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The most bizarre thing is that Georgia fans have really told themselves that they wouldn't be surprised if Georgia was busted with recruiting violations tomorrow when the entire rest of the CFB community who isn't Alabama would have said: "I knew it."


It's bizzare to me that you think UGA could be the only school that could get popped. Every team in America cheats to some extent.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 11:49 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:16 pm to
Are you saying it would surprise you that Georgia is cheating, let's say, a little more?

I mean, it's irrelevant what you answer because there are coaches and even recruits who have alluded to it, which is almost unheard of before.

I guess when you have a coach who chokes away the big games you have to rely on bought talent, but to each their own.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:48 pm to
Why are you shite talking in here? We’re just talking football recruiting.

From what I’ve seen it varies more by coach than school. And I would not be surprised by UF paying more than UGA or visa versa.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:08 pm to
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Why are you shite talking in here?


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And I would not be surprised by UF paying more than UGA or visa versa.


Because you say retarded shite like this.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42066 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:20 pm to
Grantham has personally asked me how much it would take to get a player that was committed elsewhere when I was a recruiting coordinator a a large high school. He’s sleazy. So yeah, while you want to think you’re team isn’t cheating as much as UGA because Mullen and crew suck at recruiting I know it’s possible. You can believe me me or not but I don’t really give a frick either way right now.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:27 pm to
Florida received a death penalty level of punishment in the 80's for recruiting violations, which is why we're likely one of the few programs who are exceptionally clean. You'll also notice that out of the last 15 years of National Championships for basketball, we were one of the only schools who had zero recruiting/other violations.

I mean, you're a Georgia fan, so you're going to think "well Kirby just got such a sweet mouth he can talk anyone into coming to Georgia, rawl dawgs." But you need to check your intellectual honesty if you really believe what you're saying.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:36 pm to
Wow, you honestly believe that UF and their coaches don’t cheat.

I’ve repeatedly said in here and everywhere else that UGA is cheating, just like everyone else is.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:47 pm to
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Wow, you honestly believe that UF and their coaches don’t cheat.


If we're cheating to get 10-17th ranked classes then we're doing it wrong

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just like everyone else is.

Everyone says this when their team gets caught in sketchy shite

Show me a UF recruit in a 80K truck and Ill retract my statement

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42066 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:01 pm to
I’m saying that every team cheats. Even Northwest Division Two Idaho State. I’ve been saying for years.

Again, do we know the family’s financial situation?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:56 pm to
This is one of those things that you just can't see because it's your team. Of course teams cheat, of course there are 100 dollar handshakes here and there.

Just most schools try to hide it.

Florida is likely cheating but at a much lower level. As I said: We were the only Championship Basketball team not to get wrapped up in scandal.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:00 pm to
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Again, do we know the family’s financial situation?

No, we don't. But we have common sense. Ppl whos families are set like that, usually give their kids cars as soon as they get their license. Not the day they commit to a big program
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:02 pm to
Sounds like they suddenly got very financially stable, and suddenly were able to get a car. It just happens to coincide with when he committed.

Total coincidence.
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