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Missing link on defense- Spur

Posted on 9/29/13 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15736 posts
Posted on 9/29/13 at 4:16 pm
I think the biggest issue with our defense this year is the spur position. Not only is Golightly undersized but hes out of position or missing assignments too many times. Behind him we have Redshirt freshman Jordan Diggs who has played some and then Chris Moody, Kyle Fleetwood and Larenz Bryant have all been mentioned as moving to Spur indicating that the coaches are looking for answers but not finding them.

We've been fortunate to have Darian Stewart, Antonio Allen and Devonte Holloman handle the Spur position since we started running it and all three were big-time playmakers- Stewart and Holloman already established playmakers when they moved to Spur.

If Golightly remains the best option at Spur then the defense will continue to struggle
Posted by CarolinaSoCocky
Darkside of the Moon
Member since Dec 2012
1157 posts
Posted on 9/29/13 at 4:47 pm to
I hate to feel like im bashing a player but his duty needs to be reduce to special teams only. He missed multiple tackles yesterday along with looking completely lost in coverage. I would also like to see Chaz Elder in the game some more, shite while I'm at it play the Dixon boys more too.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 9/29/13 at 5:33 pm to
I came into the season thinking that Golightly was just keeping the Spur seat warm until Diggs learned enough of the playbook to take over the position. I always heard that Diggs was recruited explicitly for the Spur position, and that the position was tailor-made for him.

But then they started talking about Bryant being looked at for the position, and then he was moved there. So I wonder if Diggs is having trouble grasping the position or is struggling in the coverage aspects.

But in either case the Spur is just like the LB position: in 2010 we were thin in depth at LB with Paulk and Wilson being injured, and it hurt our overall defense substantially. But even then we had a young Allen at Spur, and he was one of the top players on D that season being 2nd overall in tackles and having dbl-digit TFL. IMO he was the top "Unsung Hero" that season...

This season, BOTH the Spur and LB positions are inexperienced, and Golightly was initially thought of as mostly being depth for the secondary when he signed, he was so tiny.

I'm hoping that as the season progresses the younger guys start taking bigger roles and settle down at the positions. Only Clemson and Missouri are left on our schedule with top-30 passing offenses: MSU's passing O is tied with ours at 45th, UK's is 58th and UF's is 97th. Arky's is 105th and UT's is 112th. Hopefully our passing defense improves as the season progresses....
This post was edited on 9/29/13 at 5:34 pm
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 9/29/13 at 6:28 pm to
I agree with y'all.

Golightly isn't the right mix of speed/size/ability for this position. You mentioned Stewart, Allen and Holloman, all those guys are in the NFL and can play safety or LB.

Golightly would be a stretch for an NFL safety and a long shot as a LB.

Diggs is the future at that position, and if Bryant develops his playing knowledge he will push Diggs for PT.

The Spur should be our best athlete on defense. Nobody is going to convince me that Golightly is the guy, unless Golightly starts putting up some stats.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15736 posts
Posted on 9/29/13 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

I hate to feel like im bashing a player but his duty needs to be reduce to special teams only. He missed multiple tackles yesterday along with looking completely lost in coverage


Yea i don't mean to bash him but I just don't think hes the answer at Spur.

quote:

I would also like to see Chaz Elder in the game some more


I'd like to see him more too. There is no way he could play worse than JJ Marcus or TJ Gurley at strong safety.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37559 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 4:11 am to
I agree that this team has a lot of upside - it's all a matter of gaining experience at LB and Spur and we're there. IMHO the talent is already there, the experience will come and that may include a move here and a shuffle there but the experience will come. The schedule sets-up nicely for it and we're going to be hell on wheels before this season is finished and all of next season.
Posted by Mr.Sinister
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2012
4956 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 6:50 am to
It just shows how special of a player Antonio Allen was and never really got alot of attention. The spur is the key to our defense no doubt about it. A bad spur leads to long pass plays on the seams or long runs off the tackle and we have seen both against us this year.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 6:08 pm to
I also had forgot that Antonio wasn't our Spur to begin that season: Damario Jeffery started the first 3-4 games of 2010 at Spur, then lost out to Antonio who was out-playing him as his relief. We also had both Culliver and Auguste mis-matched at CB (Culliver) and FS (Auguste), mostly due to Chris having the bum shoulder and couldn't form tackle effectively anymore. He was a more natural (or more experienced) safety, and Auguste a more natural CB.

Then Culliver is lost for the season (more issues with that shoulder), and Auguste goes back to CB, and Swearinger steps up at FS for the first time that season, and our passing defense holds 4 of the final 5 opponents to under 200 passing yds per game, when it was allowing almost 300 ypg prior to that. Hopefully we similarly find the fixes this season and start improving on passing D...
Posted by bdv1974
Liberty, South Carolinananana
Member since Nov 2011
10593 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 8:05 pm to
Ok what is the Spur position? Ive heard it for a long time but never known what it was.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 8:38 pm to
hybrid LB and Safety position. Usually acts as a third Safety, but will come into the box in running situations. It's part of the 4-2-5 base defense we run.

Your ideal spur would be the size of a D1 OLB, 6'2"+ 220+ lbs, but have the speed and agility of a D1 Safety, so runs about a 4.5 forty yard dash or below.
Posted by bdv1974
Liberty, South Carolinananana
Member since Nov 2011
10593 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 3:07 am to
Posted by Gamecox20
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:27 pm to
Personally I think either Brison Williams or Gurley needs to play SPUR. Gurley is too slow for safety and Brison seems to have a knack for tackling. This would require Elder or Moody to step up at safety though which is something that may not be possible with their lack of PT already this year saying something
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