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re: Cali’s pay for play bill

Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:48 am to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:48 am to
You're being somewhat naive IBG .... imho.

So what if a booster comes along and guarantees 20,000 jersey sales?

When has paying players ever been done on the up and up?

And what happens when this trickles down to the HS level? What happens when a 16 year old Jadeveon Clowney signs a deal for his likeness even before he's out of HS and Nike tells him if he'll go to Alabama or Clemson Nike will guarantee him 10s of 1000s of jersey sales .... or to Oregon? Because, after all, he got a taste for the revenue sharing process in HS and the courts agreed that was only fair.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:04 am to
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And what happens when this trickles down to the HS level? What happens when a 16 year old Jadeveon Clowney signs a deal for his likeness even before he's out of HS and Nike tells him if he'll go to Alabama or Clemson Nike will guarantee him 10s of 1000s of jersey sales .... or to Oregon? Because, after all, he got a taste for the revenue sharing process in HS and the courts agreed that was only fair.


Excellent point that I've not heard discussed yet.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:05 am to
To me, it still boils down to a ROI argument.

Who's going to be spending that kind of cash on college athletes?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:35 am to
quote:

So what if a booster comes along and guarantees 20,000 jersey sales?

When has paying players ever been done on the up and up?

And what happens when this trickles down to the HS level? What happens when a 16 year old Jadeveon Clowney signs a deal for his likeness even before he's out of HS and Nike tells him if he'll go to Alabama or Clemson Nike will guarantee him 10s of 1000s of jersey sales .... or to Oregon? Because, after all, he got a taste for the revenue sharing process in HS and the courts agreed that was only fair.

What am I being naive about? I’m probably one of the most pessimistic posters here

All I’m arguing is that new teams won’t come out of nowhere and be good because of the markets they’re in.

These big boosters and Nike/UA etc will just piggy back off the same schools that are winning now

California can do whatever they want, but the NCAA is a private organization
They’ll tell them to:




This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 9:41 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:43 am to
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Because, after all, he got a taste for the revenue sharing process in HS and the courts agreed that was only fair.

It’s also legal in HS in California?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:51 am to
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To me, it still boils down to a ROI argument.

Who's going to be spending that kind of cash on college athletes?

This too
Also who would make that risk on an investment with a kid at a crappy school?
Send them to Rutgers where no one gives a frick about them and they play for a shite team

Or Alabama where they already have a well oiled machine?
Posted by SOSFAN
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:24 am to
Pay them for their likeness and jerseys and leave it at that. The free market will decide who gets paid. May motivate players to actually work hard. Not getting paid rush for more yards.
As far as payment per player they have had that for years it's called a scholarship.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:34 am to
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Pay them for their likeness and jerseys and leave it at that.

In words it seems this easy

But it’s really not.

Because we are saying boosters will go above and beyond that

“Oh hey come talk on this radio show every week we’ll pay you 500k”
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:54 am to
Likeness for commercials and jerseys nothing else. If a booster is going to buy 500k in jerseys then that same booster will give 500k even if there isn't a law.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:19 am to
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Likeness for commercials and jerseys nothing else. If a booster is going to buy 500k in jerseys then that same booster will give 500k even if there isn't a law.

You’re just reiterating what we said

Yes that’s what the law says.

But boosters will find ways around it.

That said you’re right, they will fork out this cash
And it will be the same exact teams that are at the top of the rankings now that will prosper
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:14 am to
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But boosters will find ways around it.


If you pay them for jersey sales then get ready to watch Deep Pocket Booster X promise a kid he'll buy a small mountain of jerseys if he goes to the booster's school. Hell, if we can get the Walton family interested in sports again Arkansas can finally be competitive if this becomes legal.

Ideally we would have the President step in and hammer out something to address this issue, much like Teddy Roosevelt did for college football back around 1906. The problem is that we don't have a Teddy Roosevelt, on either side, at the moment.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:45 am to
Maybe the Mcnairs can sell the Texans and just donate all their money to USC

Texans fans already disliked him.
They loved that he brought a team but thought since then he hasn’t been great, and now with his passing maybe that happens?
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 8:46 am
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