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re: I'd like to trade Pete Golding

Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:26 pm to
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I am saying you cannot ignore defensive TDs and turnovers. They do make a big impact on the game. The lone turnover they had against UF resulted in an easy TD drive.


Yeah, but you still gave up 200 yards rushing and couldn't stop the run. You can't count on turnovers.



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But Pruitt as a whole was much better. Which is my point. Both of his defenses were ranked no.1 by the SP+ ratings you brought up. The 2017 one was the highest rated defense under Saban. There’s a difference between no.1 and no.3 or no.7. That 2016 defense had a rating of 8.6 while that 2018 defense had one of 14.2.



I'm a big fan of Pruitt, but the situations just have not been the same.

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It’s projection on your part. You call people fragile crybabies when you are doing the same thing. You want to have your opinions? Fine. But don’t complain when others “speak their mind” too.



You are the one who brought it up. I don't complain, I just tell them they are a dumbass while at the same time telling them why. There is a reason why I generally don't like Alabama fans.


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As already established, no one is perfect. Every great has made mistakes. Doesn’t mean we know more then him, but he has made mistakes before. I would prefer someone else took on the ILB coaching duties but I’m not advocating for Golding to be fired. I’m not saying the defense isn’t going to get at least a little better.


Not a single person on this forum has even a remote clue what really goes on. Don't even have 1% of the information that Nick Saban has. Only some pretend to.

And what you say about Saban making mistakes is entirely my point - he will fix them if he does.

Does anyone listen to what he actually says?

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My whole point is questioning why you shite and are hypercritical of the 2016 defense and Pruitt, but don’t do the same for Golding’s defenses.


People pretend Pruitt was prefect and have selective memory. If I could pick any DC it would be Pruitt, but people forget the times the defense struggled under him, and he didn't have any where near the same problems Alabama has been dealing with.

It's like SoS. You have to take into account the circumstances around it.
Posted by DP4Tide
Member since Aug 2021
1113 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:31 pm to
TBH the only position coach on D right now that has his group playing at a elite level is Sal with the OLB's.

The rest of the position groups are either playing with poor effort, bad execution or both
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22603 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Yeah, but you still gave up 200 yards rushing and couldn't stop the run. You can't count on turnovers.


But if they happened, they happened. You can’t act like they didn’t, and you can’t evaluating a defensive which is what I was doing. A defense that gave up 20 points and had one defensive TD have a better performance then an defense that gave up just 20.

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I'm a big fan of Pruitt, but the situations just have not been the same.

So did Pruitt not have tough circumstances in 2017 with multiple injuries? By every metric, Pruitt has been better. Smart was too.

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You are the one who brought it up.

I’m not the one going around calling people babies for having their opinions and then saying “I’m just saying my part”.

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People pretend Pruitt was prefect and have selective memory. If I could pick any DC it would be Pruitt, but people forget the times the defense struggled under him, and he didn't have any where near the same problems Alabama has been dealing with.

No he wasn’t perfect. But...
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You have to take into account the circumstances around it.

Yeah context. That’s what I have been talking about the whole time. And that applies to Pruitt’s “bad performances” too. Doesn’t mean he was blameless in these games but there were other notable factors that contributed to the mistakes and issues.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
14665 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:42 pm to
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People pretend Pruitt was prefect and have selective memory. If I could pick any DC it would be Pruitt, but people forget the times the defense struggled under him, and he didn't have any where near the same problems Alabama has been dealing with.


No one is looking for perfection in this era of college football.

A great head coach once said that when a player is confused and unsure he's running about 2/3 speed. At that point 4 and 5-star athletes look exactly like 2 and 3-star athletes on the field of play.

And I'm tired of looking at it.

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