re: Bobby Bowden started head coaching in 1959. From 1959-2020 where does he rank all time.

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1995 Florida State was 10-2. One of the wins was 1-AA UCF. So the nine teams they beat had a record of 51-51. The two teams they lost to had a record of 21-5.

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to keep with the theme, of the teams they beat, Florida's 12 wins came against opponents with a 71-61 record

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1996 FSU was 11-1, going 1-1 vs Florida. Take UF out and their opponents were 57-57.

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Take out FSU and Florida's opponents were 59-58 in 1996.

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1999. The other 8 ACC teams had a combined record of 45-48. With Florida, Miami, and Louisiana Tech their opponents record was 71-59.

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The record of Florida's 8 SEC opponents was 46-47, and that included 13-0 Tennessee, a team they didn't beat.

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2000. ACC opponents were 45-47. Overall the teams they beat were 70-59.

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SEC opponents for Florida were 54-41 im the regular season. They played Auburn twice. They lost to State, FSU, and Miami. The teams they beat had a combined record of 58-49

So, I'm not really seeing a huge difference in strength of record between FSU and Florida over that time. Yes, the SEC was stronger than the ACC, but the SEC was, quite frankly, just not the power it has been the past 15 years. Florida and FSU both had their schedules bolstered by playing each other, Miami, and whoever they played in the bowl games. Florida had a good matchups against Tennessee and 1, maybe, 2 other SEC games plus FSU. FSU played Florida and Miami every year plus generally one good conference matchup and many times another decent OOC game.

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once they joined the ACC they played Florida/Miami, a couple of decent ACC teams, 5 or so garbage ACC teams, plus one additional regular season game most years. Sometimes good, sometimes average.

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That doesn't sound exactly easy to me Maybe to win their conference but not their overall schedule. I mean hell, look at Alabama's schedule their last full season when they won a national title. Beat 10-4 Auburn, 9-4 LSU, and 9-4 State in the regular season. The rest of their schedule in the regular season were teams that hovered at or below .500 except for Fresno State OOC, a G5 school. Playing 4-5 good teams a year isn't unusual or something that should be used as a knock against great teams. Nebraska didn't play any more than that during their dynasty, probably less honestly.