re: Bobby Bowden started head coaching in 1959. From 1959-2020 where does he rank all time.

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What in God's name are you talking about? I counted 6 SEC opponents and 5 were against Florida?
Stop pulling complete bullshite out your arse

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Florida literally won 27 straight SEC games. That happened. That’s not pulling anything out if my arse. They lost to Auburn in the 1994 season and didn’t lose another game to an SEC opponent until losing to LSU in the 1997 season, winning the SEC CG in 1994-1996. Nick Saban’s longest streak has been 18 games from the start of 2008 until losing to South Carolina in 2010. For such a “strong” conference, how on earth did Florida manage that? Bowden was 2-2-1 against Florida in that stretch.

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Name another conference that had 3 NC's in the 90's plus another that went undefeated?Name a better conference.You can't slick

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Penn State 97-26 (1 national title)
Ohio State 91-29-3
Michigan 93-26-3 (1 national title)
Wisconsin 70-44

Nebraska 108-16-1 (3 national titles)
Texas A&M 94-28-2
Colorado 108-16-1 (1 national title)
Kansas State 87-30
Texas 74-44

Florida 102-22-1 (1 national title)
Tennessee 99-22-2 (1 national title)
Alabama 83-40 (1 national title)
Auburn 72-40
Georgia 72-43

Pretty close IMO

I also said the SEC has been way better since the mid 00s than it ever was in the 1990s. That is an undeniable fact. Sorry

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Since you completely made up the 27 win stat

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Nope, sure didn’t

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you made up the "blackballed"part as well

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Nope. Didn’t make that up either. FSU applied year after year. Always turned down, starting in I believe 1955

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"The SEC is the only logical conference for us to get into from a geographical standpoint, but that depends on two things: increase in the size of our stadium and the ability of our football team to beat some of the SEC members." —Dr. Howard Danford, FSU Athletic Director, 11/20/1955.

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To understand the love/hate duality between Florida State and the Southeastern Conference—a lot of history needs to first be examined. The Seminoles' love affair with the SEC did not begin in the late 1980s, no. Rather, it began through a humiliating series of disappointing rejections, over the course of a 30-plus year process, in which FSU repeatedly applied for membership only to be continuously told, "no."

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Florida State would officially apply for membership its first time (of many) in 1960, citing its schedule of three SEC opponents that season—Auburn, Kentucky and Florida. FSU would lose to all three. Before the season begins that year, Florida cites its support for both Florida State and Miami to join the conference following the 1960 season. It would never happen.

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In 1962, FSU would again lobby for support from the University of Florida to expand the SEC and allow it to join. FSU would garner support from another unlikely source—Jim Whatley from the University of Georgia's coaching staff. Whatley cited that FSU joining the conference would benefit by way of its accommodating facilities, which, at the time, were well ahead of other SEC stadiums. The needed revenue would almost assuredly garner favor for FSU to join the conference, alongside the growing support of other SEC members. FSU's effort would again—fail.

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Again in 1963, it would seem with FSU playing toe-to-toe with each of its SEC opponents, (losing only to UF,) FSU would be a lock to join the SEC. Ray Graves of Florida even announced his endorsement of the Tallahassee program joining the SEC. FSU's application would again be declined. In 1964, the same. Rejection. 1965, a motion was made at the annual SEC meeting, but there was no second. 1966 and 1967, no motion was even made. Florida Head Coach Ray Graves reversed his position on sponsoring Florida State, citing that even though FSU would be a good fit, the current allotment of 10 teams (with Tulane having departed) was perfect, and just what all current SEC teams really need. In 1968, Graves and the University of Florida again "supported" FSU joining the SEC, but only if a 12th team would join, could the support be fostered and carried by more than the administration in Gainesville. The SEC voted down the proposal, due to a lack of a 12th team.

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Through the 1970s and 1980s, former FSU president Stanley Marshall began to push the issue by conducting a personal tour of SEC campuses, in an attempt to land the Seminoles a place within the conference. It seemingly was becoming more and more of an issue as Florida State began to make quite a name for itself in the 1980s, but it wasn't until 1990 that another suitor—the Atlantic Coast Conference, would come calling.

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