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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:27 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:27 am to
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There would be a small increase but it wouldn't be huge. When you ride through the upscale neighborhood you don't see people standing on the corner at midnight smoking weed or getting into mischief. It's inside, out of sight because if the neighbors do see it they call the cops.



I would agree with that, which is why I included white collar crime. If white collar crime was as vigorously pursued as other crimes, I do think there would be a noticeable increase. It wouldn't completely close the gap. But yeah, white collar crime takes a lot of resources to investigate, prosecute, and get convictions for, so most police departments choose to take the path of least resistance.

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When ANY crime happens and is detected by the residents of higher (and really even middle) class neighborhoods those people call the cops. Known crimes don't go unreported.


Well, that depends entirely on the crime. Suburban people aren't reporting each other to the police for the rampant DUIs in the suburbs every weekend. CPA firms aren't turning in clients that try to defraud the tax system, they usually jsut fire them as clients and let someone else deal with the problem.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:32 am to
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Well, that depends entirely on the crime. Suburban people aren't reporting each other to the police for the rampant DUIs in the suburbs every weekend. CPA firms aren't turning in clients that try to defraud the tax system, they usually jsut fire them as clients and let someone else deal with the problem.


Buy a scanner and listen to your local PD. At least around here the local department gets sent on possible 10-55 (drunk drivers) multiple times every weekend. They get called in all the time.

As far as CPAs go, I don't know. Honest question, do they have a duty to report? I know at the government auditing level they do - if they find a crime they're supposed to report it. That's how teachers and other public officials get caught. If they don't, it needs to be added to their licensing requirements. If me as a lowly EMT has a legal obligation to report abuse and gunshots and highly paid CPA can report detected fraud.

Edited to add - even if local PDs had the time, expertise, and resources to investigate white collar what they'd still lack is probable cause. Somebody gets assaulted, robbed, etc you've got immediate proof of a crime. No assumptions involved. Someone shot the guy.

Not so easy with white collar. Joe just bought a lakehouse isn't probable cause, it is Joe buying a lake house. You think Joe did it by skimming from clients? What evidence are you going to use for that search warrant to see his books? There isn't any because you don't even have a complainant.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:38 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50898 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:52 am to
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CPA firms aren't turning in clients that try to defraud the tax system, they usually jsut fire them as clients and let someone else deal with the problem.


What you said makes no sense.

The only way for a tax client of a CPA firm to defraud the tax system is for the CPA firm to file a fraudulent tax report for them. Unless they actually file fraudulent tax documents, no crime has been committed that can be investigated. "My client asked me to do something I think goes against current tax law, so I fired him as a client" isn't something the government can act on. That means literally nothing.
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