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re: Spinoff Thread: AU’s last 12 Composite 5 Star commits
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:44 am to Irons Puppet
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:44 am to Irons Puppet
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Good for AU-Gus beating Bama-Saban, a feather in this hat for sure.
I'm sure happy to know the AU fan base is perfectly fine with Gus chalking up a hefty dose of loses to UGA/LSU with a generous sprinkling of losses to aTm/UT and him sitting @ 3-3 vs MSU in his tenure.
quote:I'm sure it's Gus is a lot better than people want to admit, that's it. Gus is also the 2nd longest tenured HC in the conference now isn't he? So he's had twice as many shots at Saban in the last 6 yrs than any other HC, right?
Nobody is saying they are happy with Gus. The question that keeps being dodged is, as bad as Gus is at times, how does he compete with Saban when nobody else in the league has ? Everyone wants to put Kirby on a pedestal for playing Saban close, but they love to criticize Gus even when he has beaten Saban twice (as the #1 team) and put 630 yards on him in a loss. It is either Saban is not the best on the field coach (he can recruit) or Gus is a lot better than people want to admit. Which is it /
I don't know what Kirby has to do with the path you've taken this thread, but for you to totally ignore the job Nick Saban has done in the last 12 yrs and chalk it all up to "recruiting" in this conference/division is asinine.
Saban doesn't just recruit players and funnel them straight to the early rounds of the NFL draft. You ignore the massive amount of player development, roster management, ego & attitude management and staff management to be able to sustain his level of success. Not to mention Saban's ability to adjust with the changing times and his willingness to change and evolve as needed.
Gus is not a "bad" coach, but for whatever reason he has voluntarily turned himself into a mediocre coach since his 1st year at AU. He is stubborn as hell and this constant flip flopping he's done with his involvement in the offense hasn't helped the W/L record. He goes from a CEO HC to a hands-on offensive coach, back to a CEO coach and now he's the OC? He's constantly chasing his tail and reacting instead of creating and evolving and it's damaged him IMO.
Good for Gus for holding a 2-4 record vs Saban as a HC, but Bama is only 1 game a year and CGM still can't seem to get the upper hand on LSU/UGA/MSU either.
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:53 am to RT1941
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I don't know what Kirby has to do with the path you've taken this thread, but for you to totally ignore the job Nick Saban has done in the last 12 yrs and chalk it all up to "recruiting" in this conference/division is asinine.
Saban doesn't just recruit players and funnel them straight to the early rounds of the NFL draft. You ignore the massive amount of player development, roster management, ego & attitude management and staff management to be able to sustain his level of success. Not to mention Saban's ability to adjust with the changing times and his willingness to change and evolve as needed.
He has been able to recruit and he does a great job of roster management. I have said for years that the early success for Saban at Bama was due to processing players and oversigning classes. It created a 25% advantage over other programs who wouldn't do it. Of course Saban has some player development, but the number of quality recruits have been the reason for his success and the success in the NFL Draft. Now GMs are drafting his players not based on numbers, but based on the perception of the program. Some of these players look better than they are because they a surround by other good players.
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