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Scientists Transferred Memories From One Snail to Another. Someday, It Could Be People

Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:26 pm
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So, it’s impressive that researchers from UCLA were able to transfer memories of being shocked between marine snails. Even more impressive? That early research may someday pave the way for similar processes in humans.


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In the study, published Monday in the journal eNeuro, snails in one group were trained to respond to a stimulus — in this case, a shock to the tail (animal lovers, don’t fear — the shock didn’t hurt the snails. It just triggered a defensive curl reflex, sort of like snatching your hand away from a hot stove). At first, the snails would only curl for a few seconds. But through repeated shocks, the researchers trained them to curl for longer, up to about 50 seconds.

Next, the team took some ribonucleic acid (RNA), which forms proteins based on cells’ DNA, from nerve tissue in the upper abdomen of trained snails and injected it into the untrained snails’ necks to get to their circulatory system. When they were shocked, the snails that weren’t injected with RNA curled for only a few seconds, the way all snails do when they haven’t been trained. But the ones injected with RNA from the trained snails? They held the pose for 40 seconds, as if they remembered how to respond to a stimulus, even though they had never encountered it before. The researchers also tested some of the same techniques on snail neurons in a petri dish.


I think the ultimate question is, "If scientists succeed in transferring all the memories of one person to another, will the donor be duplicated in the receiver of the memories? Are we what we remember?
Posted by hogNsinceReagan
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:37 pm to
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Are we what we remember?


We ARE our memories reacting to stimulii.

So I guess the second dust particles hit the smell receptors of the dual identities they instantly become seperate entities. yay science!
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:44 pm to
And, of course, another question is begged, "If all of the memories of one person are transferred into the brain of a person whose memories have been all wiped away, will the consciousness of the brain with the new memory bank be the same as it is/was in the donor brain?

Is the consciousness process unique to a person or, because it is just a process and not a thing, is it common from one individual to another?
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:52 pm to
I think the ultimate question is who around here thinks its ok to downvote Kentucker.

Posted by Kentucker
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:55 pm to
I hadn't noticed that. I think there are a couple of people who are so scared of science that they react to someone like me who is unabashedly pro-science.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:56 pm to
That would make a dope sci-fi horror movie
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:58 pm to
It's definitely better than a head transplant. And much more likely, I might add.
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:59 pm to
Have you seen Altered Carbon?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:05 pm to
Dark Matter also has that "consciousness transference" theme. You enter a machine that duplicates your consciousness in a clone of you anywhere in the galaxy. The clone can only live for a few days but is a complete duplicate of you. That call it traveling by "Transfer Transit."
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:07 pm to
I tried so hard to like that show but I couldn't do it.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:23 pm to
Me neither. I abandoned it after the Raza crew accidentally traveled to a parallel universe and had to do battle with their duplicates. It just got too silly.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:53 pm to
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Have you seen Altered Carbon?


Hell yeah, great show
Posted by airfernando
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 9:02 pm to
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It's definitely better than a head transplant. And much more likely, I might add.
not so fast
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 10:08 pm to
Memory transference from one person to another would not involve the surgery or risk of rejection from the donor's body in the transplanted head example. That's the upside. The downside is that we don't know if the consciousness process would be the same in the memory recipient.

It seems conclusive that the consciousness process would remain the same in the transplanted head example, however, since no part of the brain would be changed.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 10:15 pm to
Brain memory isn't the same as muscle memory, which is what these scientists were testing.
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:43 pm to
Muscle memory? No.
Posted by DannyB
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:08 am to
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That would make a dope sci-fi horror movie


Go watch Altered Carbon on Netflix or better yet read the book series.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 6:13 pm to
Must have been a real slow recovery
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