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Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:31 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:31 pm to DawgsLife
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A true science believer would never discount the possibility that God exists until he had absolute proof that God does not exist. I am always amazed at the number of scientifically based people that throw scientific methods out to suit their own belief system.
Let's just focus on this, since it seems to be the crux of your argument.
It is not true that every idea in the world has to be treated as possibly true, just because there's some 0.0000000001% chance that it could be, and we can't "prove" otherwise. That's a ridiculous belief.
I can say with enough certainty that Zeus doesn't exist to state it as fact. Otherwise, facts don't exist. I can do the same thing with any other god.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 6:01 pm
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 7:34 am to Teague
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It is not true that every idea in the world has to be treated as possibly true, just because there's some 0.0000000001% chance that it could be, and we can't "prove" otherwise. That's a ridiculous belief.
You are the one touting science, not me. And from a scientific perspective, scientists are open to any possibility until it is proven otherwise. To believe otherwise is to skew science and introduce prejudice into the scientific method.
At one time people scoffed at the idea matter was made up of billions of tiny, invisible things that bonded together to form that matter.
That said...again....if you want me to preach, and hear how you can become a Christian, we can continue this conversation. otherwise this is not what this board, or thread is for.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:40 am to Teague
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I can say with enough certainty that Zeus doesn't exist to state it as fact. Otherwise, facts don't exist. I can do the same thing with any other god.
But we do know that, in fact, Jesus did exist. Historians don’t really consider this a debatable point. Whether or not he is God or the Son of God is the point of contention. This is why insulting, illogical Zeus, Spaghetti Monster and other condescending arguments are entirely wrongheaded. They are false equivalences meant not only to dismiss someone’s dearly held beliefs but also to disparage the believer as if this will somehow win debate points. They are the realm of the Dawkins branch of atheism. These faux intellectuals would have you believe they are superior thinkers and truth-tellers when all they are is the non-theistic version of the the poppycock preaching crowd. “Those people over there are stupid so you people who are smart should buy my book.”
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