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re: Tim Tebow is such a good person

Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:01 am to
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:01 am to
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Can you see or touch love? Do you doubt it's existence? Sure you can see physical manifestations of love in peoples actions, but can you see the emotion itself? Does that make it any less real?



You don't have to see or touch something to have actual evidence it exists. "Love" itself is a social construct to explain emotions controlled by chemicals that have evolved and proven beneficial to the human (and some other social species') species. We can prove those emotions, chemicals, and actions exist. "Love" is just the concept we use to explain them, mainly because we weren't scientists when we began to explain it.

So, no, I can't see the actual "love", but like I said in the very post to which you replied, you don't have to see and touch something to have concrete evidence of its existence.

Your argument is going to be that you "feel" god therefore you know he exists, just like love. And, I'll agree that "god" is similar to love in that it is a social construct that we attribute to emotions and needs.


As, far as Tebow, he seems like an ok dude. He's a religious nut, but a lot of people are.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58964 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:25 am to
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He's a religious nut, but a lot of people are.

Out of curiosity...what makes him a nut? That he helps those less fortunate? Not sure what part makes him a nut.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24134 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:30 am to
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You don't have to see or touch something to have actual evidence it exists. "Love" itself is a social construct to explain emotions controlled by chemicals that have evolved and proven beneficial to the human (and some other social species') species. We can prove those emotions, chemicals, and actions exist. "Love" is just the concept we use to explain them, mainly because we weren't scientists when we began to explain it.


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Your argument is going to be that you "feel" god therefore you know he exists, just like love. And, I'll agree that "god" is similar to love in that it is a social construct that we attribute to emotions and needs.


Actually, that wasn't where I was going to go.

Where I was going to go was that while you are correct that the release of oxycontin and dopamine in our brains that builds neurological connections that science explains as "love." But the emotion of love goes way beyond the release of those chemicals. If your explanation is true, then how do you account for the emotion of "love" going beyond rational and even into behavior that compromises an individuals fitness, in the terms of what Mr. Darwin taught us? I'm talking things like homosexual love or people risking their life to save a pet because they "love" it. If love is simply biochemical, shouldn't natural selection eliminate these types of behaviors from the population?

I'm not saying the things you state aren't real. I'm saying that Love is a much more complex than the simple release of certain neurotransmitters from the pituitary.

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