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Georgia wins the SEC...

Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:33 pm
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:33 pm
Before the championship game:

#4 defense in the nation
#36 offense in the nation

Just in case anyone is interested. I know some of you aren't.

Thought I'd add these little bits for those who said I don't understand what conference were in, and how it works.

Big 12 champion Oklahoma: #61 defense, #1 offense.
PAC 12 champion USC: #73 defense, #13 offense.
AAC champion UCF: #73 defense, #6 offense.

The B10 champion will be Ohio State: #8 defense, #4 offense.

The ACC champion will be Clemson: #6 defense, #24 offense.

This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:33 pm to
Response thread
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:35 pm to
When our state starts putting out 5star defensive guys yearly, I'll agree.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:37 pm to
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Response thread


Response thread to what? We've been discussing this stuff for a week, and I've been called nearly everything but a human.

I told everyone the numbers don't lie.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:40 pm to
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When our state starts putting out 5star defensive guys yearly, I'll agree.


Well, that's not even remotely logical. How many 5 star offensive guys does our state put out yearly?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:43 pm to
I'd also point out, Smart was a career DC, having passed up multiple head coaching opportunities, and had people wondering why he never got or took a HC job.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:45 pm to
Troy. We have been correct about this all week. These guys will see soon enough.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:46 pm to
It's like you ignore the basic concept that it's easier to recruit and devlop offensive talent than it is defensive guys because it's almost all instinctive and physicality.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:48 pm to
And it's like you ignore that's all the more reason why you MUST try even harder to field a better defense. The numbers don't lie. If you don't build a defense, you don't win titles. It's that goddamn simple.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:48 pm to
You do realize we just went through 5 years of "build a defense and play smart football" and it gave us the worst 5 year run in our history.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:49 pm to
Lets worry about getting above .500 before we start talking about titles.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:49 pm to
You gotta hire a better defensive coach.
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:50 pm to
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had people wondering why he never got or took a HC job.


Waiting for his Alma mater. So by that logic, Venables isn’t leaving until Kansas State opens up?
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:52 pm to
Venables has been an option here for 5 fricking years now.

I swear this program is ran by imbeciles.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:03 pm to
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It's like you ignore the basic concept that it's easier to recruit and devlop offensive talent than it is defensive guys because it's almost all instinctive and physicality


Do you listen to yourself when you type? I'm not ignoring the basic concept, I'm acknowledging it.

It's easier to recruit and develop offensive talent, so get yourself an offensive coach? You've got it backwards.

It's harder to recruit and develop defensive talent, so go get a coach who has made a career of doing just that, at the very highest levels.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:04 pm to
These people literally don't understand this shite, man. It's like explaining algebra to a 6 year old or something. They are all emotion. No logic.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:06 pm to
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Waiting for his Alma mater. So by that logic, Venables isn’t leaving until Kansas State opens up?


Yeah. That's the same logic that says West Virginia has Alabama's last three or 4 national championships, and one of LSU's.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:04 pm to
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I'd also point out, Smart was a career DC, having passed up multiple head coaching opportunities, and had people wondering why he never got or took a HC job.
He also walked into a stable system that had been set up by one of the more successful coaches in the SEC. Kirby was handed the keys to a Ferrari. All he had to do was stay on the road.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:13 pm to
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He also walked into a stable system that had been set up by one of the more successful coaches in the SEC. Kirby was handed the keys to a Ferrari. All he had to do was stay on the road.


I wouldn't dispute any of that much, but they just won the SEC for the first time in 12 years or so. He's doing something different, and I bet I know what it is. Defense. Haven't looked up the numbers, but I bet it's true.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:15 pm to
Georgia is in an entirely different place than Arkansas. All they needed in their program was a slight change. Arkansas is undergoing a complete overhaul. We need someone that knows how to build a foundation for a program. That's not a job for a first time head coach.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 9:16 pm
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