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re: Eason will start vs Vandy?

Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:00 pm to
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Sorry man, I cant agree. I think you are just spinning things at this point because you just love the guy and thats okay.
While I personally like Fromm more than Eason I honestly don't care who starts as long as the best of the two does. I think people are being irrational on both sides of the argument which is why I've been trying to keep my statements around facts rather than my personal opinion and then call out my opinions when I have them.

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The presnap reads are a joke.. he is throwing to his primary and reading absolutely nothing.
Careful with the generalizations. Just because he makes a lot of throws to his primary target doesn't mean he doesn't know how or he doesn't go through his progressions when his primary isn't open. The "reads" I was talking about were pre-snap. He's looking at the defensive formations to help him determine where he needs to go with the ball, or that's what it looks like to me. That goes back to my comment about him being really lucky, our receivers getting much better since last year, or Fromm has been successful in knowing where to go with the ball based on what he sees at the line.

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The article where Hardeman quoted him saying in the huddle he was throwing to him was a clear indication of this.
I don't think that's a great indication of a generalization. I think it's a single data point. That's pretty common, actually, depending on the play call and the game-time situation.

Last week I saw a short video of Greene and Hayes recounting the hobnail boot play. CMR told Greene what the play was and to look for a specific formation from the defense. If he saw it, Hayes would be wide open in the middle for the TD. If he didn't see it, throw it away. So yeah, it happens that some plays will be set up for a single receiver and if he's not open, the QB should throw it away.

This was the case with the flea flicker against Miss. State. There wound up being three open receivers (two TEs and the FB) but Nauta is the primary receiver on the play and he was wide open so he got the ball.

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His throw to Nauta in the Tenn game is another. Nauta fell out early in the route. If the play goes to X he's throwing it there. If it goes to Y, he's throwing it there.
Wrong. Watch it again. Nauta doesn't stumble until the ball is leaving Fromm's hand. It was a quick play and while it does look like Nauta was the intended receiver before the ball was snapped, it happened so fast that Fromm didn't have the opportunity to see Nauta fall down and look for a different receiver. If Nauta stays on his feet, this would probably not even be a play that we'd be discussing.

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Your timing numbers support this beyond all. He cant drop back in the pocket and make 2 or 3 reads in an avererage of 1.5 seconds on the regular dude. I'm sorry, he isn't reading a got-dam thing bro. His primary targets have just been super wide open a lot because we run the ball 70% of the time.
The reads I'm talking about are the pre-snap reads. I'm not talking about his progression, though he has done that at times. He appears to be looking at the defense and throwing to his primary receiver based on what he sees. Every play has a determined route for each receiver and the primary receiver is determined by the defensive formation and the matchups presented. I think the proof is in the pudding; his primary receivers have been mostly open and in a position to catch the ball to pick up yards. You don't have to go through a progression when your primary receiver is open.

There have been several plays where Fromm has checked down to the flats or progressed through different receivers on the longer developing plays. Whether his primary targets are open because they are good, defenses are bad, or the running game is helping out is irrelevant. If Fromm knows who he wants to go to by default and they are open 75% (or whatever it is) of the time, he's doing a good job of figuring out where he wants to go. I'd be concerned if he keyed in on one target every play who was never open yet got the ball anyway.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:59 pm to
Chernoff made an excellent point today.

Fromm hasn't been asked to do near as much as what Eason was tasked with in the first 5 games last season.

All of the data he used is probably all contained in this thread but the way he explained it made alot more sense.

All the more reason the whispers in the wind are saying Eason gets the start vs Vandy.
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