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Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:18 pm to
The problem is that he's a 9 win coach when things are going well but that's his peak. That's a pretty good coach for many teams but it won't cut it at Tennessee.

A lot of people are angry with Jones but the truth is the man worked his arse off to dig us out of a ginormous hole that few realize the size of and that he rarely gets enough credit for. TBH, that's probably why he gets flustered with the media and overcompensates by saying stupid shite or stuff that's exaggerated - he never got credit for the goals he actually did accomplish and resents that he didn't and that pissed off resentment leads him into saying dumbass shite to try and get credit.

That said, he succeeded in flipping the roster and laying the groundwork for a solid program. He's done almost everything right except evolve and grow as a gameday coach. He's stuck at 8 or 9 wins and people have no faith that he'll ever do better than that. I appreciate what he's done for us but he's literally at the point where he can do no more and keeping him around can cause us to slide backwards and undo what he did manage to accomplish.

Could he be better at a lower level? Quite possibly. I think the stress and lack of acknowledgement for the smaller things (he never quite figured out that those are things programs of our background don't pat anyone on the back for) has led him into a chaotic state, certainly moreso than when he first arrived. He's never taken criticism well but when he first arrived and was in a grace period his teams played their asses off and were disciplined. He was a different person then and people liked him but criticism changed him. I think he could do well at a smaller program that demanded far less than what a blue-blood demands.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

A lot of people are angry with Jones but the truth is the man worked his arse off to dig us out of a ginormous hole that few realize the size of and that he rarely gets enough credit for.

I said from the first year. Butch Jones may no succeed. However, if he fails it won't be because he isn't the hardest working SOB in Knoxville.

Butch stabilized and righted the program. He has brought in talent. We are no longer a dumpster fire.

The problem Butch has right now is he has lost the locker room. frick the fan base. Win and they will come running back like a hound to bacon. Once you lose the team, it's gone.

I'm not sure how this happened, but it has happened. There is a lot of internal strife right now...A LOT. There is also some stuff that we're not being given the straight story on.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58484 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:11 pm to
Agreed, he's done a very good job of righting an incredibly wayward ship and he absolutely deserves credit for that but this is his ceiling and if we don't move now, especially when it's a great year to do so as far as competition for hires, we could dig ourselves a hole
Posted by VolInBavaria
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2015
4026 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:06 pm to
My thoughts exactly
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