re: Baker Mayfield or Johnny Manziel

Mayfield has benefited greatly from having better defenses and coaching in two seasons at OU, not to mention he didn't have to be the man in Norman until his third season. I know Mayfield had to sit a year, but Manziel accomplished everything within 3 years of graduating high school including the redshirt season. A&M was a top 5 team in '12 and top 20 in '13, and OU was top 5 in '15 and '16, but A&M had zero defense Manziel's second season. Had Manziel played 4 seasons like Mayfield will, it would be difficult for anyone to ignore the stats despite OU having better teams and overall talent along with an easier path. Mayfield may win the Heisman this year, but they aren't going to win the natty. Manziel would have taken them to the next step.

Both are undeniably great QBs and leaders in somewhat of an apples/orange argument, but take everything else away but the player, and I would pick Manziel. And finally, if we're being really honest, Manziel would kick Mayfield's arse in a real fight.