re: Can Clemson replace uscjr in the east?

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They never had a shot

Vince Dooley hated Clemson and worked hard behind the scenes to ensure that SC got the invite when FSU turned us down.

We were going to expand. Our primary targets were FSU and Arkansas.

When the Criminoles bailed, there was a big push to grab Clemson. But Coach Dooley shut it down and was successful in lobbying to give the invite to the Gamecocks instead.

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That's true, and Florida lobbied for us over FSU AND Clemson actually. Foley walked us through the process as an assistant AD of some sort at the time. But Dooley lobied for us big time, no doubt about it. He didn't like Clemson and for good reason. Matter of fact, the dead periods before signing day are known to some as The Dooley Rule because he lobbied the rule as necessary due to so much hanky panky he had to deal with when Danny Ford was at Clemson.

I'm pretty sure Clemson never had a chance. Tennessee didn't want them in the league either so there were enough black balls against them, over their history of illegal recruiting tactics, that their reputation preceded them and they never had the votes. Auburn would have probably black balled them as well.

We often forget the FSU and Bowden dominated the ACC for far longer than this current streak Bama is on. I forget how many times FSU won league games, in a row, before they were beaten by ... was it Virginia or NC State (?), but I think it was over 100 league games in a row. 116 maybe?

So I get a kick outta the sheep humping goat blowing taterheads claiming Bama owns this league when Bama has been beaten almost yearly by others teams in the league (SEC).

Clemson's day is coming with their cheating on the recruiting trail. All the Florida teams have people on their trail now and so does UGA and SC. It's just a matter of time and they'll slip-up. They're stepping on too many toes. This is how they went down last time.