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re: Is this coaching or culture?

Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:15 pm to
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ey have ALWAYS been able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It is literally the main reason people in Arkansas, and Texas, make fun of them. The homo thing actually comes second.

Texas A&M ALWAYS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME underachieves. Sumlin has created a weird culture there. The swag thing that former player spoke of, but beyond that, their larger culture drove them to hire that drunk in the first place. They tried to make their image more hip by hiring a "hip" coach and it bit them in the arse. Like it always does. Their last coach did the exact same shite. It got him fired too.


None of this answers my question. I'm sorry, but no matter how long you've been watching them, saying 'culture' because it sounds like a sufficiently insightful thing to say isn't the same as making a cogent argument. What analysis or evidence can you offer that there's a cohesive 'culture' that can be demarcated and proven to lead to certain results? So Sumlin has his own style. Name a coach who doesn't. So the TAMU players and coaches screwed the pooch and started celebrating/slacking off too early. This is hardly an oddity in CFB. The only distinctive thing that happened in that game was that UCLA actually managed to pull off the comeback (and not laying a good portion of the credit at UCLA's feet comes across as confirmation bias at its most glaring.) If you're going to argue a direct correlation between 'swag' and attempts at 'hipness' and blowing the game, I'm going to question the claim until you offer a convincing chain of causality that specifically demonstrates that TAMU 'culture' lead to this specific game and outcome. I don't think that's unreasonable considering how vague the claim is.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:19 pm to
Man, I ain't about to read all that shite thoroughly enough to form an argument. It's labor day and I'm a couple beers deep.

TL;DR
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:37 pm to
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randomways


You're right, of course. People need scapegoats, though. That's really what this comes down to.

All the "culture" stuff that's getting lambasted today in the aftermath of pedestrian seasons and epic meltdowns was lauded back in 2012/2013 as an attitude change TAMU needed when we were kicking arse and taking names. Hell, look at the way folks evaluate Sumlin's demeanor--he's always been brusque with the press. When he's winning, people treat him like Gregg Popovich. When he's losing, they blame that attitude as part of the problem.

I'm not a scapegoat type of fan. It's all about results. He overachiever early on with Manziel, then gave it all back with his foibles the past few years. IDGAF about music at practices, about swag on the sidelines, about demeanor in interviews, or hashtags on Twitter. All of that stuff is superfluous.

If you can produce, great. If not, bye. Cut the bullshite.
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