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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:25 pm to OPTIMAX CAT
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:25 pm to OPTIMAX CAT
Being the second largest city in the state or the Capitol doesn't make you a major city. Montgomery is the Capitol of Alabama. Would consider it a major city? No. Birmingham is our largest city. Would you consider it major? No. Neither would I, and I live here.
You either have to have a huge population of a few million or be a well known cultural hub. There's only a few true major cities in the entire southeastern United States.
By population:
-Atlanta (metro)
-Miami (metro)
-Jacksonville has more people in the city limits than those two but a fraction of the metro
By cultural impact:
-New Orleans
-Nashville
-Memphis,although not quite on the level of the other 2.
Nashville, Memphis, and New Orleans (and even Jacksonville) all have metro areas that are barely bigger than the Birmingham metro, but you would laugh if I tried to compare Bham to those cities. Not only because the actual city of Birmingham is considerably smaller but Birmingham doesn't come close to the cultural impact of those cities. Or even the economic impact, despite similar populations in the general area. There's a reason those cities have pro sports teams and Birmingham doesn't with comparable population size.
Those cities all shite on Birmingham, and Birmingham shits on Baton Rouge. I like BR, but I'm sorry it's just not what most people who have ventured out of there home state would consider a major city.
You either have to have a huge population of a few million or be a well known cultural hub. There's only a few true major cities in the entire southeastern United States.
By population:
-Atlanta (metro)
-Miami (metro)
-Jacksonville has more people in the city limits than those two but a fraction of the metro
By cultural impact:
-New Orleans
-Nashville
-Memphis,although not quite on the level of the other 2.
Nashville, Memphis, and New Orleans (and even Jacksonville) all have metro areas that are barely bigger than the Birmingham metro, but you would laugh if I tried to compare Bham to those cities. Not only because the actual city of Birmingham is considerably smaller but Birmingham doesn't come close to the cultural impact of those cities. Or even the economic impact, despite similar populations in the general area. There's a reason those cities have pro sports teams and Birmingham doesn't with comparable population size.
Those cities all shite on Birmingham, and Birmingham shits on Baton Rouge. I like BR, but I'm sorry it's just not what most people who have ventured out of there home state would consider a major city.
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:45 pm to BowlJackson
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-Memphis,although not quite on the level of the other 2.
Say whaaat? I kinda think the blues and rock n' roll count for something and Memphis can lay claim to both just as Nashville can claim to have been the main production base for bluegrass and country (tho not the place or even the main region where musicians came from). Nashville is a producer's city not a true musician's city. The musician's that built it came from E. TN, E. KY, SW VA and elsewhere.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:15 am to BowlJackson
Memphis metro is 1.34 million
Nashville metro is 1.83 million
Jacksonville metro is 1.35 million
Birmingham metro is 1.13 million
All those cities have at least about 15-20% larger metro areas than Birmingham, Nashville having more than half a million more people. That's considerably bigger.
And Memphis is 100% a huge cultural impact center in the SE. It's the home of rock and roll and has deep roots in the Blues. It's one of the epicenter for the civil rights movement. It's known worldwide for its cuisine. Beale Street is widely known across the world and Graceland is one of the most traveled to destinations in the United States.
Regardless, back the original topic, cities w large metro areas simply cannot be compared to other "cities." The city center is ALWAYS going to have exponentially more crime than the surrounding metro areas, where half the population lives. New Orleans proper, for instance, only accounts for about 40% of the metro area. Atlanta proper only has 447k people while the metro area has 5.49 million people. Of course the city itself is going to have a higher crime rate because it has a higher poverty rate. The people with the means, by and large, live in the suburbs. Memphis is a great example. The crime rate in the city is awful, but the crime rate in places like Germantown, Collierville, etc, is basically non-existent comparatively speaking
Nashville metro is 1.83 million
Jacksonville metro is 1.35 million
Birmingham metro is 1.13 million
All those cities have at least about 15-20% larger metro areas than Birmingham, Nashville having more than half a million more people. That's considerably bigger.
And Memphis is 100% a huge cultural impact center in the SE. It's the home of rock and roll and has deep roots in the Blues. It's one of the epicenter for the civil rights movement. It's known worldwide for its cuisine. Beale Street is widely known across the world and Graceland is one of the most traveled to destinations in the United States.
Regardless, back the original topic, cities w large metro areas simply cannot be compared to other "cities." The city center is ALWAYS going to have exponentially more crime than the surrounding metro areas, where half the population lives. New Orleans proper, for instance, only accounts for about 40% of the metro area. Atlanta proper only has 447k people while the metro area has 5.49 million people. Of course the city itself is going to have a higher crime rate because it has a higher poverty rate. The people with the means, by and large, live in the suburbs. Memphis is a great example. The crime rate in the city is awful, but the crime rate in places like Germantown, Collierville, etc, is basically non-existent comparatively speaking
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