Are you really using the Outback Bowl (a de facto home game) as your metric that the defense is going to have no dropoff? All of this to a team that lost to North Dakota State? I mean... it's like you want to do my work for me.

Continuing to presume that the 10-3 UGA teams of the previous 2 seasons have very much to do with the 2016 team is pretty asinine. Particularly when we've already outlined that improvement is expected or there will be something to be concerned about. Getting worked up over year one performance would be ridiculous, particularly with a freshman QB, a patchwork OL, and a first year HC. If you think we're not keeping a close eye on the situation, you're just not paying attention. Solid strawman though...

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might even make one worry about their own team for the upcoming season instead of herping all over another team's thread

I mean, if anything in this thread could be considered herping, it would likely be the infighting of UF fans all over a coach that you seem to think is doing a great job, regardless of where people have pointed out that you have problems of your own. No one said UF is a shitstain that can't get corrected or anything, simply that you have a fundamental issue right now. You are losing highly rated talent at a much higher rate than you are replacing it. Again, it's certainly possible that Mac and his staff just have a keen eye for talent, but the current trend of lower rated players can't be one that most UF fans are happy about.

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Posted by atlgator

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Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:59 pm to fibonaccisquared

More than recruiting, I'm concerned about Florida taking the next step this year and next year. I want to see that 9-3/10-2 turn into 11-1 and competing for SEC Championships and Playoff spots. I don't want us to fall content with (not trying to take a shot) the Richt style of 9-3/10-2 on a yearly basis without being able to take the next step.

Considering the context of the program, I'm okay with Mac's first two seasons. More than okay, I'm excited with the first two seasons. I truly think that when Mac gets solid quarterback play, we take the next step from winning 10 games to competing with Alabama and FSU, etc.

As far as the argument you and straws have been having, I haven't tried to defend him because I honestly don't care to compare star rankings. It's comparing different players who have played under different coaches and different systems with different jobs. It's not worth comparing guys by their recruiting rankings. It's stupid to justify who had better players based on stars ranking. It doesn't matter how talented UGA was last year vs. Florida in 2015. Different teams, different years, different circumstances. It's more important that head to head, Florida has been better than Georgia by a fairly wide margin the last three years. Is that because of a talent gap? Coaching gap? Probably a combination of both. Regardless, I think it's a dumb argument to make that "Florida had a combined 14 stars on the starting OL and Georgia had 19" or whatever the argument was. That doesn't take into account for former 3 star X whos now a junior and was a first team All SEC or former 5 star Y who is now a sophomore and has been horrible. It's an imperfect science and comparison that is settled once a year in October

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Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom

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Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:24 pm to fibonaccisquared

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Are you really using the Outback Bowl (a de facto home game) as your metric that the defense is going to have no dropoff? All of this to a team that beat Michigan?

Yeah, blowing out the team that beat Michigan is pretty significant.

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Something about true freshman etc. etc..

Yeah, a five star quarterback can be helped significantly by a veteran offensive line and two elite running backs with more talent on the flanks than a Redshirt freshman (Grier) who has two veterans (one is DII) and three raw, never started a game in their lives on the offensive line with one ''quality'' quarterback and receiver.

The difference in talent regarding the Florida and Georgia offense is greater than that on the defensive end -- which was greatly depleted against a team like LSU (which Georgia could only dream of beating) and Iowa, which had picked up quite a bit of steam at the end of the year.

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I mean, if anything in this thread could be considered herping, it would likely be the infighting of UF fans all over a coach that you seem to think is doing a great job,

Literally posted the opposite. I said we were going in the opposite direction, not that it was a great job.

He took a team that was regularly struggling to bowl and got us to back to back 10 win seasons.

Kirby took a team that was regularly getting nine wins a season and struggled to bowl.

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Again, it's certainly possible that Mac and his staff just have a keen eye for talent, but the current trend of lower rated players can't be one that most UF fans are happy about.

It's to be seen, McElwain has taken three stars and made them look quite serviceable.

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Getting worked up over year one performance would be ridiculous, particularly with a freshman QB, a patchwork OL, and a first year HC.

Yeah, we had that too -- except as I said it was worse.

Except we had Treon Harris, who wasn't even really a quarterback and who never hit over 50% of his passes.

So you had a much better quarterback (plenty of freshman quarterbacks, especially five stars, come in and are productive) and a veteran line.

Catalina was your Halter (DII) player.

Wynn had played in 24 games vs. Thurman who had 10 starts.

Kublanow had 36 starts to Dillard's 0.

Pyke had 23 starts to Riles 0.

Gaillard is your Riles (Both were defensive ends) and had zero starts to Sharpe's 0 starts.

We push at: Two DII players, two DL's playing offensive line but the rest is alllllllll Georgia andb y a whole lot in regard to experience and stars together.

Sucks, but maybe it's your coaching.