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re: Heroes, Red Arrows, 'n Gimps. . .

Posted on 1/29/17 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 5:42 pm to
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My definition of a hero is someone who gave up their lives/personal safety to save/defend others, or further a cause.

"Nelson Mandela, Che Guevara"


Que? Mandela was an unrepentant terrorist (would have been freed many years earlier had he simply renounced violence - but didn't), and Guevara was simply a murderer. If merely furthering a cause is sufficient, your list is very short on 20th Century totalitarians.
Posted by Tropic Lightning
South Florida
Member since Nov 2006
923 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 6:20 pm to
In no order

- Mercury 7 Astronauts
- Patrick Henry
- Colonel Robert "Bad Bob" Howard
- Thomas J. Jackson ( surprised he means so much to so many )
- Davey Allison
- John Adams
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 6:47 pm to
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Que? Mandela was an unrepentant terrorist (would have been freed many years earlier had he simply renounced violence - but didn't), and Guevara was simply a murderer. If merely furthering a cause is sufficient, your list is very short on 20th Century totalitarians.


One man's, or people's, terrorist is another's hero. To the British, George Washington was a traitor and a terrrorist. Many Northerners thought R.E. Lee was a terrorist. Southerners weren't too fond of Sherman. To the people in South Arfica who were suffering under Apartheid, and the impoverished and oppressed people of Latin America, Mandela and Guevara were great heroes.
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31968 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 7:12 pm to
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Mandela was an unrepentant terrorist (would have been freed many years earlier had he simply renounced violence - but didn't), and Guevara was simply a murderer. If merely furthering a cause is sufficient, your list is very short on 20th Century totalitarians

Yep. Im pretty sure that both Jesus Christ and Ghandi would be shocked and disgusted to be included with most on that list..
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