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KenPom SEC Hoops Update (Quality Wins and Bad Losses so far)

Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:17 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40965 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:17 pm
This is a far better methodology than RPI until about mid-February. The two usually get pretty close together by the end of the season as the RPI normalizes.

The SEC has done a tremendous job of avoiding losses to sub 100 teams (Only 3 so far). Some good chances to get top 50 wins here in the next month and then obviously in late January with some very good Big XII opponents in the challenge.

4. Kentucky 7-1
Good Wins: Michigan State (38)
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: North Carolina (3), @ Louisville (7), vs. Kansas (5)

12. Florida 7-1
Good Wins: Seton Hall (46), Miami (FL) (29)
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: Duke (2), @ Florida State (31), @ Oklahoma (42)

32. Texas A&M 4-2
Good Wins: Virginia Tech (33)
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: vs. Arizona (27), @ West Virginia (9)

35. South Carolina 8-0
Good Wins: vs. Michigan (26), Syracuse (23)
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Seton Hall (46), vs. Clemson (36)

49. Arkansas 6-1
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Oklahoma State (47)

62. Georgia 5-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: None

70. Vanderbilt 4-4
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: vs. Bucknell (141)
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Dayton (39), vs. Iowa State (28)

78. Alabama 4-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Oregon (20), vs. Clemson (36)

91. LSU 5-2
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Texas Tech (37)

95. Tennessee 3-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ North Carolina (3), vs. Gonzaga (14), vs. Kansas State (34)

100. Ole Miss 6-2
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Virginia Tech (33), vs. Baylor (11)

105. Auburn 6-1
Good Wins: Texas Tech (37)
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: Oklahoma (42), @ TCU (45)

119. Mississippi State 6-2
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: vs. Lehigh (109)
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: None

157. Missouri 4-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: vs. North Carolina Central (209)
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: vs. Arizona (27),
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:22 pm to
Vandy, Miss St, Mizzou.....y'all ALREADY got a bad loss?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79504 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:27 pm to
I'm new to being a fan of a basketball school. I just don't get RPI or KenPom early in the season. It just seems to rely so much on stupid metrics that won't come into play for months, or on expectations.

For example:

49. Arkansas 6-1
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Oklahoma State (47)

62. Georgia 5-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: None

70. Vanderbilt 4-4
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: vs. Bucknell (141)
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Dayton (39), vs. Iowa State (28)

78. Alabama 4-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Oregon (20), vs. Clemson (36)

91. LSU 5-2
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Texas Tech (37)

95. Tennessee 3-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ North Carolina (3), vs. Gonzaga (14), vs. Kansas State (34)

100. Ole Miss 6-2
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Virginia Tech (33), vs. Baylor (11)

105. Auburn 6-1
Good Wins: Texas Tech (37)
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: Oklahoma (42), @ TCU (45)


Honestly, what am I supposed to take away from this?

I'm not convinced AU is better than those teams, but I'm certainly not convinced that 4-3 Alabama with no good wins is 27 spots ahead of us.

Nor am I convinced that our win over Texas Tech is a good win.

Someone explain this shite to me.

Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:30 pm to
Barnes was left with shite after Conzone bailing and the Mike Huckabee hire. I think he'll right the ship there eventually
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
33356 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:09 pm to
Top 50


Posted by AUBorn
Itumpka Youtumpka Wetumpka, AL
Member since Aug 2013
933 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:31 pm to
Vandy has a bad loss, is 4-4, and they are 70 while AU has a good win, is 6-1 and is 105? His formula is crap.
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