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Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:29 pm
Has improved to 16-5, and has yet to lose a game that his starting quarterback has played in.
And I'm not saying at all that this team is a championship team, but here are the scores to our games in 2006.
Southern Miss 34-7
UCF 42-0
Tennessee 21-20
Kentucky 26-7
Alabama 28-13
LSU 23-10
Auburn 17-27
Georgia 21-14
Vanderbilt 25-19
South Carolina 17-16
WCU 62-0
FSU 21-14
Arkansas 38-28
OSU 41-14
Compared to this season
UMASS 24-7
Kentucky 45-7
North Texas 32-0
Tennessee 28-38
Vandy 13-6
Missouri 40-14
Georgia 24-10
Mac and Meyer both in year 2, and Meyer had a senior in Chris Leak and a phenom in Tim Tebow at QB, while Mac is stuck with decent, but journeyman Luke Del Rio at quarterback.
I guess my point in all of this is the year that we won a national championship, we played in some close, ugly, painful games through the season, and that was with HOF coach like Urban Meyer and a senior QB and a phenom quarterback. So I'd say the results in the W/L column we've gotten under Mac so far are not only acceptable, but outstanding considering the things he's accomplished with the lack of offensive talent he inherited from Muschamp. He's turned over this offensive roster, and now, in my opinion, is a quarterback away from being legitimate playoff contenders.
I'm excited to close out the East and represent in Atlanta for the second time in as many years under coach Mac.
And I'm not saying at all that this team is a championship team, but here are the scores to our games in 2006.
Southern Miss 34-7
UCF 42-0
Tennessee 21-20
Kentucky 26-7
Alabama 28-13
LSU 23-10
Auburn 17-27
Georgia 21-14
Vanderbilt 25-19
South Carolina 17-16
WCU 62-0
FSU 21-14
Arkansas 38-28
OSU 41-14
Compared to this season
UMASS 24-7
Kentucky 45-7
North Texas 32-0
Tennessee 28-38
Vandy 13-6
Missouri 40-14
Georgia 24-10
Mac and Meyer both in year 2, and Meyer had a senior in Chris Leak and a phenom in Tim Tebow at QB, while Mac is stuck with decent, but journeyman Luke Del Rio at quarterback.
I guess my point in all of this is the year that we won a national championship, we played in some close, ugly, painful games through the season, and that was with HOF coach like Urban Meyer and a senior QB and a phenom quarterback. So I'd say the results in the W/L column we've gotten under Mac so far are not only acceptable, but outstanding considering the things he's accomplished with the lack of offensive talent he inherited from Muschamp. He's turned over this offensive roster, and now, in my opinion, is a quarterback away from being legitimate playoff contenders.
I'm excited to close out the East and represent in Atlanta for the second time in as many years under coach Mac.
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:22 pm to atlgator
I don't actually believe it will happen, but it would be hilarious if we made it to the playoffs. Mac directly addressed on the criticism of the team in his presser yesterday saying that this team is a lot better than people seem to know.
I know if we run the next three games somehow, I'm going to start believing though.
I know if we run the next three games somehow, I'm going to start believing though.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:29 pm to atlgator
The team is decent, but we've been saying it since before the year started:
We're a work in progress. We need to fix a whole hell of a lot of problems (on offense) and really, if Muschamp had gotten one more year we may all but be on our way to Mississippi State prestige.
We thought Urban left the cupboard a little light, but it was absolutely nothing compared to what happened with Muschamp. I think Mac has literally built the offense from scratch.
Outside of maybe one or two decent players from Muschamp's days, he's gone 11 - 2 in regular SEC play, both losses with second string quarterbacks on the road.
This is a rebuilding year, as was last year but we still managed to win the East, and our well on our way to winning it again should we get a little luck on our side.
That being said, our offense has improved by leaps and bounds.
Let's just take a look at the Kentucky game, and Kentucky is MUCH better this year than last.
2015, 2016 bolded.
Final Score:
14 - 9
45 - 7
Total Yards:
245
564 (Luke Del Rio broke a 12 year record for passing yards.)
First Downs:
16
28
I'm not saying we're gonna win a natty this year, or maybe even next year, but just take that one game into account. He's broken several pre-Muschamp records including:
500+ yards conference games.
Most yards thrown by a quarterback in a game.
Won the East his first appearance as head coach.
Man, it's just night and day, and it ain't pretty, but it ain't ugly either. At least we're going, slowly but surely, in the right direction.
We're a work in progress. We need to fix a whole hell of a lot of problems (on offense) and really, if Muschamp had gotten one more year we may all but be on our way to Mississippi State prestige.
We thought Urban left the cupboard a little light, but it was absolutely nothing compared to what happened with Muschamp. I think Mac has literally built the offense from scratch.
Outside of maybe one or two decent players from Muschamp's days, he's gone 11 - 2 in regular SEC play, both losses with second string quarterbacks on the road.
This is a rebuilding year, as was last year but we still managed to win the East, and our well on our way to winning it again should we get a little luck on our side.
That being said, our offense has improved by leaps and bounds.
Let's just take a look at the Kentucky game, and Kentucky is MUCH better this year than last.
2015, 2016 bolded.
Final Score:
14 - 9
45 - 7
Total Yards:
245
564 (Luke Del Rio broke a 12 year record for passing yards.)
First Downs:
16
28
I'm not saying we're gonna win a natty this year, or maybe even next year, but just take that one game into account. He's broken several pre-Muschamp records including:
500+ yards conference games.
Most yards thrown by a quarterback in a game.
Won the East his first appearance as head coach.
Man, it's just night and day, and it ain't pretty, but it ain't ugly either. At least we're going, slowly but surely, in the right direction.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:21 am to atlgator
I think you have to give that 2006 team some credit though, the schedule was way tougher than what the 2016 squad has faced. 8 of those teams won 8 or more games in 2006, and the schedule was insanely hard.
Right now UF's best win is 5-3 Kentucky.
I think the comparisons between the two should stop.
UF controls their own destiny with two winnable games in front of them. let's see what they do.
Right now UF's best win is 5-3 Kentucky.
I think the comparisons between the two should stop.
UF controls their own destiny with two winnable games in front of them. let's see what they do.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 9:13 am to slayerxing
Oh absolutely, the 2006 team was much better than this team is.
However, they had some ugly games, some ugly wins. There's no comparison between that team and this team, yet. But this team still has four games in front of them to make the comparison more plausible.
However, they had some ugly games, some ugly wins. There's no comparison between that team and this team, yet. But this team still has four games in front of them to make the comparison more plausible.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 9:37 am to atlgator
This team and 2006 are similar.
Offense 2006
Defense 2016
ST 2006
Brandon James on ST, Harvin, and Tebow as a change up. UF does not have anyone that special on offense or ST.
Offense 2006
Defense 2016
ST 2006
Brandon James on ST, Harvin, and Tebow as a change up. UF does not have anyone that special on offense or ST.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 9:39 am to BloodSweat&Beers
The 2006 defense was better against the run, a lot better, like 2nd best in Florida history. Weaker against the pass though. Although the 2006 defense would never have given up deep bombs like we saw against Tennessee. Reggie Nelson would never have let that happen.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 9:42 am to slayerxing
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The 2006 defense was better against the run, a lot better, like 2nd best in Florida history. Weaker against the pass though. Although the 2006 defense would never have given up deep bombs like we saw against Tennessee. Reggie Nelson would never have let that happen.
True. The fricking eraser.
Outside of that one half, UF's defense has been great.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:50 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
We are still a work in progress but I am not sure this is a rebuilding year . Next year will be more of a rebuilding year in my opinion. The OL seem to run block a little better agains UGA and should have a chance to improve again this week against Arkansas . We need to keep improving mainly OL and QB play . LDR needs to be the game manager that we expected and stop trying to make plays out side of his talent level.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:59 pm to tjv305
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We are still a work in progress but I am not sure this is a rebuilding year . Next year will be more of a rebuilding year in my opinion. The OL seem to run block a little better agains UGA and should have a chance to improve again this week against Arkansas . We need to keep improving mainly OL and QB play . LDR needs to be the game manager that we expected and stop trying to make plays out side of his talent level.
I meant for the offense -- this is definitely a rebuilding year. Four of the five OL are still underclassmen and every single one of them should return next year. In fact, every single one of the backups are freshmen and we don't even have a backup offensive lineman listed for left tackle. Next year we'll have to see what happens, but our freshmen and sophomores are making plays, too.
Fact o' the matter:
We need a quarterback. A good quarterback. We have a decent one, and we can still rack up the wins, but if we want a national championship we need a good QB.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:44 am to tjv305
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Next year will be more of a rebuilding year in my opinion.
but but but next year is supposed to be "our year" dammit!!!
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:49 am to finchmeister08
I don't think next year will be a rebuilding year.
UF's defense will take a step back but they will be returning literally everyone that matters on offense, and a bunch of new talent as well. Offense should be lights out next year.
Defense has some good young players, but will certainly take a step back. Especially in the secondary.
Still think UF will win a lot of games though because the offense and kicking game will be legit.
UF's defense will take a step back but they will be returning literally everyone that matters on offense, and a bunch of new talent as well. Offense should be lights out next year.
Defense has some good young players, but will certainly take a step back. Especially in the secondary.
Still think UF will win a lot of games though because the offense and kicking game will be legit.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:38 am to slayerxing
I agree, next year is not a rebuilding year. Literally everyone on offense is coming back, and we're getting better week by week especially on the line. A little coaching up with Del Rio and the other quarterbacks we should have all the pieces in order.
And we have one extra home game next season.
And we have one extra home game next season.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:50 pm to slayerxing
We could lose almost every starter on defense after this season and you guys don't think 2017 will be a rebuilding year? We are still winning with defense and so unless the offense flips a switch in the offseason next year could be ugly. Unless we can get a lot of the JRs to return for next year then the defense will struggle.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:10 pm to tjv305
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:10 pm to tjv305
Assuming a reasonable draft season, here is what you have projected to come back right now, not even predicting ANY freshmen to make an impact, which we all know isn't going to be the case.
Here is the DL, reasonably, but guys that aren't playing right now that may contribute in the future include Jordan Smith, Luke Ancrum, and Justus Reed.
DE: Jordan Sherit, RS-SR, Antoneous Clayton, Soph.
DE: Jabari Zuniga, RS-Soph., Keivonnis Davis, Jr.
DT: CeCe Jefferson, Jr. Jachai Polite, Soph.
DT: Khairi Clark, RS-JR., Taven Bryan, RS-Jr.
At LB, I don't expect Anzalone to leave early, but I guess it's possible. And this is assuming no new LB's help UF out next year. Even with Anzalone gone it's a unit with potential.
LB: Alex Anzalone, RS-Sr., Jeremiah Moon, Soph.
LB: David Reese, Soph., Vosean Joseph, Soph.
LB: Kylan Johnson, RS-Soph., Rayshad Jackson, RS-Soph.
Defensive back is the hardest to project because it will need the biggest infusion of talent, and it is going to get a big infusion, but even without it we have:
CB: Joseph Putu, Sr., Chris Williamson, RS-Soph, CJ McWilliams, RS-Fr.
CB: McAurthur Burnett, RS-Fr., Chauncey Gardner, Soph,
NB: Duke Dawson, Sr., Chauncey Gardner, Soph.
S: Nick Washington, RS-Sr., Jawan Taylor, RS-FR
S: Marcell Harris, RS-Sr., Quincy Lenton, RS-Fr.
UF will be just fine at safety. Washington and Harris have come a long way this year, and are having solid seasons. They will be steady on the back end. The scary position is maybe corner, but it's not as bad as we make it out to be.
All in all, this is a good defense, and probably still top 25 in the country because of how good the DL is going to be, especially at DE.
AND THIS DOESNT EVEN COUNT one or two of the incoming freshmen balling out and stealing a starting spot from day 1.
When you combine this with the fact that the offense should return every single starter, like literally, probably every starter - which should lead to a huge leap in production, I don't think you have to call 2017 a rebuilding year
Here is the DL, reasonably, but guys that aren't playing right now that may contribute in the future include Jordan Smith, Luke Ancrum, and Justus Reed.
DE: Jordan Sherit, RS-SR, Antoneous Clayton, Soph.
DE: Jabari Zuniga, RS-Soph., Keivonnis Davis, Jr.
DT: CeCe Jefferson, Jr. Jachai Polite, Soph.
DT: Khairi Clark, RS-JR., Taven Bryan, RS-Jr.
At LB, I don't expect Anzalone to leave early, but I guess it's possible. And this is assuming no new LB's help UF out next year. Even with Anzalone gone it's a unit with potential.
LB: Alex Anzalone, RS-Sr., Jeremiah Moon, Soph.
LB: David Reese, Soph., Vosean Joseph, Soph.
LB: Kylan Johnson, RS-Soph., Rayshad Jackson, RS-Soph.
Defensive back is the hardest to project because it will need the biggest infusion of talent, and it is going to get a big infusion, but even without it we have:
CB: Joseph Putu, Sr., Chris Williamson, RS-Soph, CJ McWilliams, RS-Fr.
CB: McAurthur Burnett, RS-Fr., Chauncey Gardner, Soph,
NB: Duke Dawson, Sr., Chauncey Gardner, Soph.
S: Nick Washington, RS-Sr., Jawan Taylor, RS-FR
S: Marcell Harris, RS-Sr., Quincy Lenton, RS-Fr.
UF will be just fine at safety. Washington and Harris have come a long way this year, and are having solid seasons. They will be steady on the back end. The scary position is maybe corner, but it's not as bad as we make it out to be.
All in all, this is a good defense, and probably still top 25 in the country because of how good the DL is going to be, especially at DE.
AND THIS DOESNT EVEN COUNT one or two of the incoming freshmen balling out and stealing a starting spot from day 1.
When you combine this with the fact that the offense should return every single starter, like literally, probably every starter - which should lead to a huge leap in production, I don't think you have to call 2017 a rebuilding year
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:56 am to slayerxing
The offense, just to make you feel better:
QB: LDR, Trask, Franks, Allen (best QB depth in years)
RB: Scarlett, Perine,
WR: Callaway, Swain
WR: Massey, Powell
WR: Cleveland, Hammond
TE: Goolsby, Lewis, Knight, Stephens
OL: Taylor, Johnson
OL: Johnson/Jordan, Desir Jones
OL: Dillard, McCoy, Heggie
OL: Ivey, Buchanan/Sandifer
OL: Sharpe, Harkless
That is literally every player coming back. The only person that even has a chance to leave early is Sharpe, and this doesn't even assume someone taking a giant step in development like Forsythe at tackle, or Antonio Riles coming back ready to add some depth.
This will be UF's best offense since the 2008 team next year, and all they will need to help them out is a serviceable defense. Which they will have.
I do not call that a rebuild.
QB: LDR, Trask, Franks, Allen (best QB depth in years)
RB: Scarlett, Perine,
WR: Callaway, Swain
WR: Massey, Powell
WR: Cleveland, Hammond
TE: Goolsby, Lewis, Knight, Stephens
OL: Taylor, Johnson
OL: Johnson/Jordan, Desir Jones
OL: Dillard, McCoy, Heggie
OL: Ivey, Buchanan/Sandifer
OL: Sharpe, Harkless
That is literally every player coming back. The only person that even has a chance to leave early is Sharpe, and this doesn't even assume someone taking a giant step in development like Forsythe at tackle, or Antonio Riles coming back ready to add some depth.
This will be UF's best offense since the 2008 team next year, and all they will need to help them out is a serviceable defense. Which they will have.
I do not call that a rebuild.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:44 pm to slayerxing
DL will be the safest go up on the defense next year because they will have the most experience. But if Anzalone leaves then we will have a group of new un proven LBs . You even said it had potential . Driskell also had potential and didn't do much for us. We will find out next year if it's a rebuild or not . I hope your right. The east should be down as much or more then it is this year.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:15 pm to tjv305
Georgia will be better, and I'll defend Driskel: Muschamp didn't do anything for us. Kid was just fine at Louisiana Tech and honestly, had so much goddamn potential.
That being said: Tennessee may be seeing the true beginning of a blight if they can't pull it together.
Kentucky is rising.
Vanderbilt is also a whole hell of a lot better than people realize. That guy flat out knows how to use lesser talent to keep the game close enough to win (as opposed to coaches who had more talent and lost).
But I think the new teams of the East will be:
Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Georgia (not new) and Florida.
I just can't see Tennessee recovering if they have another loss.
That being said: Tennessee may be seeing the true beginning of a blight if they can't pull it together.
Kentucky is rising.
Vanderbilt is also a whole hell of a lot better than people realize. That guy flat out knows how to use lesser talent to keep the game close enough to win (as opposed to coaches who had more talent and lost).
But I think the new teams of the East will be:
Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Georgia (not new) and Florida.
I just can't see Tennessee recovering if they have another loss.
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