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re: Former Alabama player Quinton Dial showing off his patriotic side tonight
Posted on 9/13/16 at 11:22 am to The Spleen
Posted on 9/13/16 at 11:22 am to The Spleen
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Now Kaepernick is protesting about as peacefully as one can by sitting/kneeling, and he's being met with the same criticism.
It's not THAT he's sitting/kneeling. It's WHEN he's sitting/kneeling that bothers people. Also, when you make statements like
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I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color
then you make the argument about what the flag stands for and not the original genesis of your angst. For the vast majority of people in America - including African Americans - that is NOT what they think the flag stands for.
His phrasing at the onset was off. A better message would have been received better. If he wore something (not pig socks or castro shirts) that supported his cause and he spoke on it in any interviews then it would have been better received in my opinion. He's getting a ton of press for his actions (the what), but not much for reasons (the why). Doesn't seem overly effective a strategy to me.
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 11:29 am to bamasgot13
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It's not THAT he's sitting/kneeling. It's WHEN he's sitting/kneeling that bothers people.
I think it's both, a lot of people just use the latter to avoid discussing the former.
Just my impression. It's easier to dismiss his actions than it is to dismiss the reasons for his actions.
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that is NOT what they think the flag stands for.
It stands for something different for everyone. This country has a very long history of oppressing and subjogating the black race and people of color, so to him that's what the flag represents. To others it stands for the fights our ancestors have made to secure our "freedom". To others, it's just a piece of cloth that doesn't have much meaning. Projecting your idea of what the flag represents onto someone else is pretty un-American, IMO.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:22 pm to bamasgot13
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For the vast majority of people in America - including African Americans - that is NOT what they think the flag stands for.
Have you talked to the vast majority of people in America of what they think the flag stands for? Have you listened to black, Hispanic people of color and whether they feel equal and not concerned about police brutality? Have you asked them how they feel about an anthem written by Francis Scott Keys, a slave owner, who prosecuted abolitionist and thought people of color were intellectually and morally inferior to white people? His 3rd verse basically triumphed at the bombing/killing of said slaves. I don't have a problem with the flag or the anthem but I can certainly see why some people might.
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